On Mon, 05 Mar 2007 12:39:35 -0500
John C Klensin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



> > 
> > How does adding a downref to a dead document add more
> > integrity to the RFC process?
> 
> Independent of the merits in this particular case, it provides
> history and context.   We have learned, or should have learned,
> two things over and over again:
> 
>       (1) Failure to provide context and a track through
>       rejected and alternative suggestions results in "new"
>       proposals to try the same things again, usually from
>       people who had no idea about the prior work.
>       
>       (2) Providing good documentation that recognizes the
>       origins of an idea and its date, even if there were some
>       changes from the original version, can be very helpful
>       in defending our work against patent vultures who try to
>       make filings on work that the IETF has had under
>       development for some time.  Personally, I've reached the
>       point that I would favor having most protocol
>       specification RFCs contain a sentence of the form of
>       "The work described here derives from a series of
>       earlier drafts, including [ref, ref, ref] the first of
>       which was circulated in 1968."
> 
> In addition, in the general case, it can be argued that
> referencing prior work, even "dead drafts" is _required_ by the
> obligation to recognize and acknowledge the involvement of
> contributors of either ideas or text.
> 

Strong second.


                --Steve Bellovin, http://www.cs.columbia.edu/~smb

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