At Sun, 17 Jun 2007 11:07:10 -0400,
Brian Rosen wrote:
> 
> Minor nit on the last part:
>     When the keys are randomly generated and of sufficient length,
>     these attacks do not obtain
> 
> "obtain" doesn't work.  Either "do not succeed" or "generally do not
> succeed" or even "usually fail".

Actually, I think obtain is fine (though a bit obscure) here.

http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/obtain


3. (intransitive): To prevail; to succeed.
4. (intransitive): To exist

    Even though the Pervaise confession had never come to light, no reasonable 
doubt could obtain; for the act in question [...] was on a par with countless 
other acts committed by the oligarchs, and, before them, by the capitalists. -- 
Jack London, The Iron Heel.


The more common replacement would be "apply".

-Ekr

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