On 10/12/07, Hadriel Kaplan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If 1000 fewer people board planes, I'm pretty sure it consumes some trivial > amount less in jet fuel, simply due to the lighter weight of the plane. But > that difference would be more than made up by the proximity of the hotel to > the airport and available mass transit to it, which would put San Diego's > Sheraton pretty high up on the list. > > Also, there is probably some proportional relationship of how many people > attend the IETF meetings compared to the reachability of their locations; so > having it at hub airports may be worse, and we should really have it at less > accessible destinations... such as an island in the middle of a big ocean. > Therefore, I vote for Kauai, Hawaii, as the future permanent host island. >
+1 > -hadriel > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Dan Harkins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Friday, October 12, 2007 5:03 PM > > To: James M. Polk > > Cc: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: Travel Considerations > > > > > > Hi James, > > > > I think you're missing the point. I'm not advocating being wasteful > > because everyone else is. I'm saying that this effort is futile and > > will not result in _any_ "win" for the planet. Your analogy to driving > > an SUV is incorrect because not driving the SUV (or driving an > > electric car instead) results in less emissions. A trivial amount but > > every little bit helps. Flying 1000 people to Frankfurt instead of > > Prague does not result in any less emissions. Encouraging other > > organizations to follow our lead-- having 10000 people scattered over > > the course of a year fly to a hub instead of through the hub to a > > spoke-- won't either. The demand is still there to fly to places like > > Prague and San Diego and airlines typically fly at less than 100% > > capacity, sometimes significantly so. > > > > If you think there is an individual responsibility to change what > > you can then please don't waste your effort on something that won't > > have any effect! Do something that will make a difference. > > > > I for one would rather fly to (spoke) Prague than (hub) Frankfurt; > > to (spoke) San Diego than to (hub) Chicago; and anywhere (spoke) on > > God's green earth (yes, it's still green in spite of the IETF World > > Tour) than (hub) London. > > > > Dan. > > > > _______________________________________________ > Ietf mailing list > [email protected] > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf > -- Clint (JOATMON) Chaplin Principal Engineer Corporate Standardization (US) SISA _______________________________________________ Ietf mailing list [email protected] https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf
