Hi,

I do not think there is consensus that what you want is what the IETF
wants.

David Harrington
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Lawrence Rosen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2007 6:46 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: A priori IPR choices [Re: Third 
> LastCall:draft-housley-tls-authz-extns]
> 
> Ted Hardie wrote:
> > Ah, I see why you appear to have changed your position.   
> You actually
> > want the result you're arguing for built into the charter of
> > the IPR working group,  beforehand without letting the 
> community actually
> > discuss it.     Thanks for re-affirming my faith in your 
> consistency.
> 
> You're welcome. To state it more fairly, I want the result 
> I'm arguing for
> to be built into the charter so that the WG can examine 
> fairly what it will
> take to reach that goal. The WG cannot adopt a policy for 
> IETF, only propose
> one. But the WG's work should be goal-directed.
> 
> By the way, that's not such a change of tactic for that 
> particular IPR-WG.
> You previously argued in committee that the current IETF 
> patent policy is
> NOT a problem, and in that spirit the IPR-WG previously buried every
> counter-proposal we made as "off-charter"! So let's play the 
> charter game
> fairly, please, by the same rules you played them. Let's 
> charter the IPR-WG
> to develop a proposal that achieves a specific goal to fix a
perceived
> patent problem. You can always argue against it in committee 
> or vote against
> it if a serious proposal toward that goal gets before the 
> IETF as a whole.
> 
> /Larry Rosen
> 
> 
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