On 2008-03-19 16:40, Dave Crocker wrote: > > > Brian E Carpenter wrote: >> On 2008-03-19 15:23, Dave Crocker wrote: >>> Michael StJohns wrote: >>>> At 10:46 PM 3/17/2008, Harald Tveit Alvestrand wrote: >>>>> *The names of people nominated should be made public. >>>>> *The names of the people who agreed to serve if selected should be >>>>> kept secret. >>>> +1 >>>> Open enough to get feedback, but kind to the rejected candidates. >>> +1 >> >> It's very tempting to say +1 without thinking about the unintended >> consequences. > > Brian, many thinks are easy to say without thinking things through. > > Or without reading carefully. > > >> Clearly, if NomCom published a proposed slate and ask for comments >> (to be kept confidential) they would get a lot of comments. However, >> if they published a proposed slate and said "we have now sent this >> to the Confirming Body", something rather different would probably >> happen. > > Since the proposal was for disclosure much earlier in the process, what > is the point of introducing the issue of being selected by Nomcom? > > Nothing in the proposal imposes additional tasks to the confirming body. > > >> 1. Add a new period to the timeline for the community to send >> comments to NomCom and for NomCom to consider those comments, >> and possibly change the slate as a result (in which case, GOTO 1). > > The proposal was for disclosure of those nominated.
Afaik "nominated" in the RFC 3777 context means nominated to the slate; at every earlier stage the people under consideration are "candidates". Hence my confusion... > > Hence, any public comment would be accepted during the same period as > the Nomcom normally seeks comments explicitly. No change in timeline is > needed. > > >> 2. Explicitly reduce the confirming bodies' role to verifying >> that due process has been followed, since there is clearly no >> scope for further debate about the chosen nominees after step 1. > > Frankly this sounds like an entirely independent issue, unrelated to the > current proposal. I don't think so. If we switch to comments from the public on a public list, I can't see any role for the confirming bodies in debating the NomCom's individual choices. Brian _______________________________________________ IETF mailing list IETF@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf
