Two points:

1)  As a U.S. citizen, I apologize for the statement made on this thread
     by [EMAIL PROTECTED]  I quietly suggest to all that it be ignored.

     I am he misspoke -- perhaps the laptop slipped in his lap at IETF73.

2)  Again as a U.S. citizen, I will contact the IETF Chair and ISOC
management
     to volunteer to assist in resolving the issue of IETF meeting
attendance.

     There is substantially less of a problem here than most realize.  The
real
     issue is certainty -- the IETF needs to obtain clear instructions,
obtain the
     cooperation of U.S. government officials so that people from any
country
     can know well in advance AND WITH CERTAINTY the process of applying
     for and obtaining authorization for attending an IETF meeting anywhere
in
     the world.

     If this cannot be accomplished, then the IETF should not meet in that
     country.

Gene Gaines
Sterling, Virginia USA




On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 2:22 PM, Melinda Shore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On 11/18/08 2:16 PM, "Randy Bush" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> How would you solve the problem?
> > hold the meetings in non-terrorist countries.  i.e. not the united
> states.
>
> I don't know what that means.  Canada, for example, is a peacekeeper
> nation that requires visas for entry from countries from which there are
> many IETF participants (India, China).  Is the issue the visa requirement
> itself or is it how visas are processed?
>
> Melinda
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