On Wednesday 14 January 2009 04:32:09 Raman Chan sent:
> HIP?

In HIP the Host Identity is a public key. I suggest that node identity be 
network connectivity cognition, i.e., an identity address shall be an 
acquaintance path to a node. Acquaintant are two nodes that know each other's 
unicast addresses. A packet with identity address destination shall travel 
acquaintance path. Identity is formed of acquaintances.
Socket formation in HIP is a good idea.

> 
> On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 7:43 AM, Toni Stoev <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> > On Tuesday 13 January 2009 06:27:10 Hui Deng sent:
> > > May I chime in, I feel identity type is a good idea.
> > >
> > > But if you map DNS to other identity,
> > > how network socket connection could work in that case/
> >
> > Shortly, like socket connection for anycast TCP does.
> > You tune right in, see identity type is useful namely for connection
> > inititation and re-establishment. It thereforе shall natively underlie IP
> > mobility.
> >
> > >
> > > thanks for your consideration
> > >
> > > -Hui
> > >
> > > 2009/1/12 Toni Stoev <[email protected]>
> > >
> > > > On Monday 12 January 2009 00:51:24 TSG sent:
> > > > > Toni Stoev wrote:
> > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > DNS job
> > > > > >
> > > > > > When a connection to a network node is to be initiated its DNS name
> > is
> > > > resolved to an IP address which shows the location of the node on the
> > > > network. So network nodes are findable by name even if their locations
> > > > change.
> > > > > >
> > > > > I think you are backwards...  The nodes are still reachable if they
> > > > > change their physical location or the assigned networks addresses
> > > > > temporarily mapped too those names by DNS or DHCP.
> > > >
> > > > Findable, not reachable, even just identifiable, is what is essential
> > for
> > > > the naming system DNS.
> > > >
> > > > > > The job of the DNS is to identify a node by its name. Another job
> > is to
> > > > maintain information about node's current location so a new connection
> > can
> > > > be started at any time.
> > > > > >
> > > > > Hmm... I think the job of DNS is to map the 'text based system names'
> > to
> > > > > a network address that the routing infrastructure and features can
> > > > > create a set of pathways for that data to reach said system.
> > > >
> > > > The job of the Domain Name System, not routing or delivery system, is
> > to
> > > > map names to identity. Furthermore, identity mapped to may be of entire
> > > > routing domains, aggregating nodes.
> > > >
> > > > > > Why should DNS be bothered with connectivity and/or topology
> > status?
> > > > > > There must be a distinct mechanism to handle mapping of node
> > identity
> > > > to network location.
> > > > > >
> > > > > GeoPriv would have you believe that another
> > > >
> > > > Still network location is disticnt from geographic.
> > > >
> > > > I suggest that there be a networking asset, an address type, that
> > > > represents network identity of nodes. And addresses of that type be
> > resolved
> > > > to by DNS name queries and be mapping to unicast network addresses.
> > > > This way DNS shall be unburdened of connectivity, routing and
> > reachability
> > > > issues related to named nodes.
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