Russ,

On 2009-10-10 07:16, Russ Housley wrote:
> Dave:
> 
> You have the motivations for rfc3932bis completely confused.  The IESG
> is not the source for the proposed changes to RFC 3932.  RFC 3932 as it
> stands works fine for the IESG, and the IESG continues to operate under
> it.  The Independent submission stream and IRTF stream do not like the
> IESG notes that are mandated by RFC 3932.  

Points well taken.

I think I'm going to challenge Jari's reading of rough consensus
in his message of Sept. 13:
http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ietf/current/msg58391.html

I think the discussions around the -09 and -10 drafts have actually
shown that there is no consensus to change from the current model,
reflected in the -08 draft, where the IESG merely *requests* the
editor to include an IESG note, and the IAB is involved only as
defined in RFC 4846.

Our general practice when there is no consensus to change a rule
is not to change it.

    Brian
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