Mike, Then I am afraid you really misread my comments. There are indeed folks who are suggesting that China should be avoided for political reasons (see the list for examples, I see no need to repeat it here), and I would characterize that as a boycott.
This is completely separate from the discussion about the hotel contract and legal provisions, unless that was unclear. In other words, we may decide that we cannot hold a normal meeting in China due to laws or contract language or any other "normal criteria for meetings", but I am a lot less certain about what political criteria we could agree on for avoiding any country. I am not saying we can't have that discussion, but I am saying that it becomes a lot less clear who "we" are given the large and growing number of participants from the country in question. I have been largely speaking for myself. The original statement from Marshall does have phrases like "the IAOC believes..." but as I explained previously, no final decision has been made, and whatever snapshot of opinion was taken 3 weeks ago isn't necessarily accurate today. I do take your point. Consider everything I've said so far as my personal opinion, based on what I know and my experience in attending meetings in China. Ole Ole J. Jacobsen Editor and Publisher, The Internet Protocol Journal Cisco Systems Tel: +1 408-527-8972 Mobile: +1 415-370-4628 E-mail: o...@cisco.com URL: http://www.cisco.com/ipj On Sun, 11 Oct 2009, Michael StJohns wrote: > Hi Ole - > > Sorry, but I read your comments as partisan as well. I took the use > of "boycott" and "what sort of message would we be sending" in your > recent messages as a clear bias in favor of going to the PRC. > > I'm not all that bothered about it per se, but it has been hard to > tell when its Ole the individual as opposed to Ole the IAOC member > speaking. > > Mike > > > At 12:39 PM 10/11/2009, Ole Jacobsen wrote: > >If that was aimed at me, then let me state for the record that I have > >not attempted to argue for or against the proposal, just tried to > >clarify what I think the issues are and what the underlying issues > >might be with respect to holding a meeting in China. If my statements > >were read otherwise, then I apologize. > > > _______________________________________________ > Ietf mailing list > Ietf@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf > _______________________________________________ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf
