On Mar 21, 2010, at 3:12 PM, Thomson, Martin wrote:

> Ben wrote:
>> There's a few ways to handle that:
>> 
>> 1) Treat rate-control as an informative reference, and say you're doing 
>> something mostly like rate control, but not quite identical. That would 
>> require quite a bit more normative language to describe what you're actually 
>> doing.
>> 
>> 2) Make this draft update rate-control to allow for empty bodies when you 
>> don't have location info yet. Put some tightly constrained language around 
>> it. so that this doesn't become a _general_ udpate.
>> 
>> 3) Since rate-control has, to my knowledge, not been pubreq'd yet, try to 
>> get the authors to modify the language to allow for empty bodies for this 
>> use case.
>> 
>> I personally think 3 is the best path forward, as I think the empty notify 
>> is generally useful for rate-control, and implementor are likely to do it 
>> anyway.
> 
> I was not under the impression from reading rate-control that that document 
> was modifying 3265 to prevent notifiers from sending an empty notify.  But, 
> your suggestion is a reasonable one.  Reading the rate-control text you 
> quoted earlier in the thread could lead to the impression that this is the 
> case.  I've added the rate control authors to the thread.
> 

I don't think it modifies 3265 in general, but it does seem to normatively 
prevent empty NOTIFY requests as a result of a max-interval expiration.

> --Martin

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