I live in Germany, and I had ordered all the Credit cards (Master and Visa) which I used during 1994-2008 explicitly _without_ PIN -- because I did _NOT_ want them to be usable to draw cash from an ATM, only for signature based transactions. Going into a bank and obtaining cash with card, picture-ID and signature was still possible. Paying in restaurants and shops, hotels and rental cars is also possible with only signature-based transacations.
I have never seen a credit card purchase with PIN. Have Visa/MasterCard/etc. come up with additional payment options like Maestro, ElectronicCash and the stuff that you have on traditional ATM cards? -Martin Ole Jacobsen wrote: > > This is only true for EUROPEAN issued credit cards (some of which have > chips and some which don't). You can get a PIN for your US credit > card, but it will NOT work for credit card purchases, only as your PIN > for cash advances (like an ATM card). There is no PIN required when > using US-based cards for purchases, and if you are asked to provide > one, the PIN you have been given for cash advances will NOT work. > > Yes, it is confusing to say the least. > > I agree that we should move this to a new list: ietf-78 which I hereby > ask Ray to create. > > Ole > > On Tue, 30 Mar 2010, Dmitry Burkov wrote: > > > > Wrong - cards - both as credits and debits work without any chips - only PIN > > required - Visa and Mastercard. > > > > Dima > _______________________________________________ > Ietf mailing list > Ietf@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf > _______________________________________________ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf
