For various reasons, I have participated in the last 3 meetings "remotely."
While I am very grateful for the technical tools (streaming audio, jabber room, etc.) that make such "remote participation" possible, it is in no way a substitute for the greater level of interaction I get when attending the meeting in person. Furthermore, I am willing to get up a 3 AM (my time) to "attend" a WG in which I already have an active interest. But I am less likely to get up at 3 AM for a WG that "sounds as if it MIGHT be interesting". When I am there in person, I am more likely to go to that "MIGHT be interesting" meeting. Janet This is a PRIVATE message. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete without copying and kindly advise us by e-mail of the mistake in delivery. NOTE: Regardless of content, this e-mail shall not operate to bind CSC to any order or other contract unless pursuant to explicit written agreement or government initiative expressly permitting the use of e-mail for such purpose. From: "James M. Polk" <[email protected]> To: Hascall Sharp <[email protected]>, [email protected], [email protected] Date: 09/07/2010 04:47 PM Subject: Re: Optimizing for what? Was Re: IETF Attendance by continent At 05:45 PM 9/3/2010, Hascall Sharp wrote: >On 8/30/10 3:57 PM, Olaf Kolkman wrote: >...snip... >> >>Am I missing something? >...snip... > >Yes. The IETF is having too many meetings where physical presence >is required in order to participate effectively in the work. Creating the ability to mimic or replicate the effectiveness of a WG meeting is only part of the benefit of attendance at an IETF. Many of us that have been going there for years and years have the benefit of chance/rendezvous meetings in the hallway to discuss a topic - that we didn't know was being discussed, or - that we may now find ourselves in the middle of, or - that a small group might want to have outside of the main discussion area/session, or - etc Many of us have lots of ideas bantering around in our heads between meetings (or that have been dormant for a while) that this type of chance meeting could generate something of a meeting-of-the-minds about starting something new or something different that how it's done now. Many newcomers - whether this is their actual first meeting or just in their first few meetings - actively or passively seek out certain individuals for the possibility of having such a planned chance meeting in a hallway. None of this can effectively be done with IETF meetings moving to webex or worse, only on email. That said - I fully understand the financial burdens on people or corporations during non-robust years of economic (non) growth, such as we're in the middle of. JMO, which could be wrong James >It seems to me that IETF is going in the wrong direction in terms of meetings. > >But maybe I'm getting old and cranky and everyone else has an ever >expanding travel budget. > >chip >_______________________________________________ >Ietf mailing list >[email protected] >https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf _______________________________________________ Ietf mailing list [email protected] https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf
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