> On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 12:35 PM, Dave CROCKER 
> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

 >> On 10/11/2010 8:25 AM, Joel M. Halpern wrote:
Without getting into the question of whether your suggestion would have helped
anything in terms of transition and interoperability, it shares one major flaw
with the path we did adopt.
>> There is no incentive to spend resources to get there.

 > Indeed, it has been remarkable how poor the sales pitch has been to 
 > resource-poor operations that are expected to adopt this, even after all 
 > this time.

<snip>
 > Specifically there is a cycle of ungranted requests. Alice has no incentive 
 > to upgrade her infrastructure because she cannot use any new feature until 
 > Bob upgrades.  Meanwhile Bob has no incentive to upgrade ahead of Alice.

 > Mere exhortations from the great and the good have very limited effect.

The "elephant in the room" which this discussion hasn't considered is "Why 
would a widget maker want to spend money, thereby reducing their bottom line, 
to upgrade their network to IPv6? Applying traditional business risk/reward 
analysis, is there even one real *business advantage* to justify such an 
expense? If there isn't any, then IPv6 would only rationally be deployed by 
such an end user if it were both transparent and free.
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