Cullen Jennings skrev 2011-02-01 18:19: > > So to summarize what you are saying, ports are allocated based on an > arbitrary view of the expert review. When this person will say yes or no too > can't be described and will change over time. > > If that's how it works, there is not even any grounds for appeal of any given > decision. You can't even use precedence as an argument. My view was the IESG > has been trying to move to having much more concrete advice for registries > that required expert review. If you agree that is about the right summary, > then I'm pretty sure I can find plenty of other people that would agree with > me that this is not OK. I'm not a fan of the WG could not get consensus on if > we should allow A or not so we are just going to let the expert review do > whatever they want. If the IETF could not come to consensus on if X or Y > were reasons to deny a registration, then I don't think the expert review > should be able to deny a registration due to X or Y.
Cullen, Apparently you like to twist what I am saying in most negative way and without considering the checks that are in place. - I think general guidelines can and should be developed. But other than high level goals this isn't the document. Here Joe has the start of a document. But I do think that in long term this guidance may change. - There is an appeal process where the IESG and then IAB gets to sanity check the arguments that the reviewer + IANA has given towards the appealing requestor. - One can take a assignment request through the IETF process I hope that we can get consensus on the guidelines, because I think that would give the reviewers a lot of comfort being able to rely on that consensus. Cullen, what are your suggestion for how to improve the document? Cheers Magnus Westerlund ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Multimedia Technologies, Ericsson Research EAB/TVM ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Ericsson AB | Phone +46 10 7148287 Färögatan 6 | Mobile +46 73 0949079 SE-164 80 Stockholm, Sweden| mailto: magnus.westerl...@ericsson.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf