On 2011-03-31 01:44, Russ Housley wrote: > Brian: > >>> Dear Colleagues, >>> >>> I have just chartered a very short draft that intends to update BCP101. It >>> can be found at: >>> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-kolkman-iasa-ex-officio-membership >>> >>> The draft is very short and contains only a few sentences of substance: >>> >>> The IETF chair, the IAB chair, and the ISOC President/CEO may >>> delegate their responsibilities to other persons. The delegations by >>> the IETF chair and the IAB chair need to be confirmed by the IESG and >>> IAB respectively. The terms of delegation is for a longer term for >>> instance aligned with the IESG and IAB appointment cycles (roughly >>> anual). >>> >>> John Klensin made me aware he also had a similar idea earlier: >>> http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-klensin-iaoc-member-00.txt >>> >>> The main difference is between his and this draft is that John's I-D makes >>> the person the chair delegates to a non-voting liaison. I have a small >>> preference for the IAB and the IESG keeping the control point, and I >>> implicitly assume that for IASA matters the persons delegated to will >>> escalate to the chairs and ask for specific guidance when appropriate. I >>> realize that for the Trust anybody serves on personal title. For the trust >>> alignment with the IAOC membership is just a practical considerations. >>> >>> The shared requirement is unloading the I* chairs and the ISOC president >>> and empowering the people that serve in that role to organize themselves. >>> (I should have paid more attention to this much earlier.) >> I find myself very torn on this proposal. Believe me, I understand the >> workload issue. But on the other hand, at the very beginning of my >> time as IETF Chair, I experienced the *previous* workload issue, >> when there was no IASA, IAD or IAOC. There was a dramatic decrease >> when the IAD arrived and the IAOC (and Trust) started to function. >> But the IETF Chair, as a full member of the IAOC, still got to >> understand the ongoing issues and of course influence the decision >> process. Yes, it was part of the workload, and I think that was >> a good thing. I'm very concerned about the IETF Chair getting decoupled >> from the IAOC. The IETF Chair's job is a whole lot more than being >> IESG Chair, and some degree of personal responsibility for oversight of >> the administrative work seems to me to be appropriate. >> >> So I'm not at all sure this delegation is a good thing. >> >> I'm not commenting on the IAB Chair and ISOC CEO slots. Delegation >> probably makes sense for them. > > I completely understand you points. I do not plan to delegate my seat. > However, it is quite painful to open a BCP and make changes. I can imagine a > future where delegation might be appropriate. For this reason, I am in favor > of opening up the BCP only once to insert this capability for all of the > ex-officio seats.
That completely makes sense. Thanks. Brian _______________________________________________ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf
