Todd,

This is totally confused and you are completely wrong.

Under the Federal Election Campaign
Act<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Election_Campaign_Act>,
an organization becomes a "political committee" by receiving contributions
or making expenditures in excess of $1,000 for the purpose of influencing a
federal election
[Source Wikipedia]

Since neither the IETF nor ISOC has any interest in influencing a federal
election, nor does it engage in any activity intended to do so, it is not a
political committee under the terms of the act.



On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 4:56 PM, todd glassey <[email protected]>wrote:

> On 3/23/2011 12:02 AM, Hannes Tschofenig wrote:
>
>> On Mar 23, 2011, at 6:52 AM, SM wrote:
>>
>>  The IETF can only address the technical problems.
>>>
>> This is an argument I often hear. I do, however, believe that you cannot
>> see technology in isolation.
>>
> Yeah - sure you can... if you want to be totally about the original design
> and practice of the IETF and its vision. It was built to advance protocol
> standardization and not to decide what protocols it would allow on the
> Internet and which it wouldn't.  But  lately many have forgotten this and
> are using the IETF as a formal lobby for technological policy advancement
> and that's a no-no.
>
> Bluntly the IETF members are becoming more and more aggressively
> politically and this statement is based on IAB and other publication on what
> the IETF does and does not allow through its frameworks. In doing so their
> statements about allowing protocols or not allowing protocols to be
> standardized based on their stated perception of "what damages the Internet"
> or what they personally want to see as a "free access to all information and
> ideas" model, creates a real serious divergence from the Standards Practice
> this organization was set up as, and IMHO is one which is designed clearly
> to destroy global Intellectual Property law and practice.
>
>  However, in many cases the technology, regulatory environment, business
>> aspects, and the social context gets mixed together.
>>
> No Hannes  - it doesn't unless the Chair allows it to - meaning that the
> Chair in this instance has allowed political materials to be fielded (filed
> in this instance) into the IETF and trust me I am already filing a formal
> complaint with the Treasury about ISOC's becoming a formal PAC and its
> locking out protocol efforts based on its own desires therein...
>
>
> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-morris-policy-cons-00
>
>
> I suggest that the Chair immediately post a formal statement that the IETF
> is a-political and will not do anything but standardize technology.  Also
> that ONLY technology drafts can be accepted since the IETF is part of ISOC
> and not registered as a political PAC or Lobbying Agency which it clearly
> has become in direct violation of the NTIA MOU which gave it (ISOC and its
> ARIN) the real power.
>
>
> Todd Glassey
>
> Please have a look at:
> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-morris-policy-cons-00
>
>> Ciao
>> Hannes
>>
>
> Hannes - this is the issue with the IETF and the gross number of flaming
> idiots inside of it. The IETF is not a Social Reform Agency, nor is it a
> freaking political action group since its financial filings prevent this.
>
> Todd Glassey
>
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