On Jun 9, 2011, at 8:05 AM, Keith Moore wrote:

> On Jun 9, 2011, at 10:59 AM, Gunter Van de Velde (gvandeve) wrote:
> 
>> Its 'rough' consensus...
>> I don't wanna rat-hole here, but imho send the draft onwards for
>> publication asap please.
> 
> I'm not even sure it's rough consensus within the v6ops group.  Again, 
> haven't read all of the messages, but definitely get the impression that it 
> falls short of consensus.

If you disagree the wg chairs conclusions as far as the wg process outcome and 
the document shepherds report which can you can find here:

https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-v6ops-6to4-to-historic/history/

Then you should consider talking to the responsible ad or an appeal to the 
IESG. As far as I am concerned the accusation that the process has gone off the 
rails is a seperate issue from the merits or lack thereof of the proposal.

> And just to be clear on procedure:
> 
> - you need more than rough consensus in v6ops, you need rough community-wide 
> consensus.  

This is an ietf last call... 

> - the criteria for standards track actions (which this is, despite the 
> document being labeled as Informational) requires both rough consensus and 
> technical soundness.

Informational status was at the behest of the iesg, we have been advised that 
an informational document may confer historical status on a standards track 
document.

> The best way to not rat-hole is just to drop the proposed action.  
> 
> Keith
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