Dear Stefan, Thank you for the reply. I think there should be a platform where IPv4 users and IPv6 users can interface. If this link is missing then there will be problem.
Otueneh On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 10:09 AM, Stefan Winter <[email protected]>wrote: > Hello, > > > "You appear to be able to browse the IPv4 Internet only. You will not > > be able to reach IPv6-only sites." > > > > Please can some one visit http://test-ipv6.com/# and give me more > > explanation on the displayed result? > > That message is quite clear, isn't it? You use an Internet Service > Provider which only supplies you with IPv4 connectivity. If you want to > visit a website which only supports IPv6, it will not work. > > The test website can be reached on both IPv4 and IPv6. So it can tell > you: you came here via IPv4, and didn't manage to get here via IPv6. So > there is no working IPv6 for you. > > Stefan > > > > > Kind regards, > > > > Otunte Otueneh > > ISOC Nigeria Chapter > > > > > > On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 7:32 AM, Stefan Winter > > <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > >> ... when the support people for a fairly well-established telco > > >> haven't even heard of IPv6, it's hard to believe that it's going > > >> to be available anytime soon. > > >> [multiple people essentially reporting the same] > > >> At this point in time $ISP has no immediate plans for > > implementation. > > > I would say it's about time reality finally settles in. > > > > My reality is that I switched to an ISP who openly announced > > native IPv6 > > support in their offering in 2007. Up and running since then, and > > when I > > had trouble setting up the IPCP+IP6CP in the same PPP channel in > > IOS, I > > wrote them an email on a Saturday, and got a config snippet back > > an hour > > later, as part of their standard customer service. That ISP operates > > nation-wide and uses IPv6 as a marketing instrument to get techies to > > subscribe. For a price of converted 15 USD per month. That's in > > Germany > > though. Apparently, realities differ depending on where you are. > > > > Greetings, > > > > Stefan Winter > > > > > > > >> Keith Moore wrote: > > >> Meanwhile, 6to4 continues to work just fine for me. > > >> So please explain again why it isn't premature to > > >> discourage a valuable transition mechanism? > > > On that one I agree with Keith; where's the rush? Although > > imperfect, > > > 6to4 was an obvious path and its demise would be the failure of the > > > IETF, following a long list of things that have been killed > > prematurely. > > > > > > > > >> Ned wrote: > > >> Anyone who doesn't believe we have a major marketing > > >> problem here isn't paying attention. > > > Hmm that is a point of view. You think you have a solution (IPv6) > to > > > what you perceive to be a problem (shortage of IPv4 addresses). > > > > > > However, some ISPs (and some other companies) do not consider it a > > > problem, but a blessing. What the IPv4 shortage does is that it > > prevents > > > new large players to enter the field, while allowing existing > > players to > > > continue to do business as usual. > > > > > > As the shortage as been predicted for a decade, some (not all) have > > > stockpiled addresses and are now reaping the benefits. In > > business, this > > > situation is worth solid gold: it's called a monopoly. I'm fat and > > > happy, and I want it to continue. In this case, it's even better: > > > companies who benefit from it can argue that they are not the > > ones who > > > created the monopoly, it was a built-in limitation of the system as > > > created. > > > > > > Some may not like the parallel, but we have failed the IPv6 > > migration > > > the same way we have failed the war on drugs. A while ago, there > was > > > this thing called the Tier-1 cartel. As originally designed, a very > > > elusive club, with almost no way in and absolutely no tears when a > > > member gets de-peered. > > > > > > Some have said that the cartel has failed as a system (due to a > > large > > > number of multilateral peering agreements and other factors). > > But now > > > what we have is a much larger number of largely unorganized but > > sharing > > > the same goals entities: those who already have IPv4 addresses. > It's > > > even worse. > > > > > > When a resource becomes scare or limited, the big picture is not > how > > > much of it is available, or how much it costs. The big picture > > is how > > > much of the market one does control. Now we are in the situation > > where > > > everyone and their sister own a piece of the pie, and as long as > the > > > price of the pie keeps going up, they're going to cling to it. > > > > > > > > > On top of the marketing problem you mentioned, you have a bigger > > one: > > > there are many, many organizations out there that, even if you > > paid them > > > to deploy IPv6, would not. Because IPv6 is a territorial threat > > to them. > > > > > > While the new or wannabe players would like the extra address > > space, the > > > sad truth is that the already establish players don't like newly > > open > > > spaces and prefer the territory control that comes with owning a > > piece > > > of a limited land space. > > > > > > Michel. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Ietf mailing list > > > [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf > > > > > > -- > > Stefan WINTER > > Ingenieur de Recherche > > Fondation RESTENA - Réseau Téléinformatique de l'Education > > Nationale et de la Recherche > > 6, rue Richard Coudenhove-Kalergi > > L-1359 Luxembourg > > > > Tel: +352 424409 1 > > Fax: +352 422473 > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Ietf mailing list > > [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf > > > > > > > -- > Stefan WINTER > Ingenieur de Recherche > Fondation RESTENA - Réseau Téléinformatique de l'Education Nationale et de > la Recherche > 6, rue Richard Coudenhove-Kalergi > L-1359 Luxembourg > > Tel: +352 424409 1 > Fax: +352 422473 > > >
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