On Aug 8, 2011, at 10:35 AM, John C Klensin wrote:

> 
> 
> --On Monday, August 08, 2011 09:09 -0700 Joel Jaeggli
> <joe...@bogus.com> wrote:
> 
>>> I'm aware of the problem.  I'm also aware that we keep holding
>>> meetings in the US and that some participants didn't find
>>> Canada a whole lot better this time around.   And I'm also
>>> aware that Israeli passport holders have absolutely no chance
>>> of getting visas for some of the locations that have been
>>> discussed recently, no matter how much they participate in
>>> the IETF or how long in advance they apply.  So I'd
>>> personally think that issue should be in the "tradeoff"
>>> category, rather than the "showstopper" one.
>> 
>> Having worked for a company with it's headquarters in Ramat
>> Gan and it's manufacturing in Penang I prefer to not make my
>> or someone else's travels more complex than strictly necessary.
> 
> Sounds like a worthwhile goal.  Did you have a collection of
> places in mind that have the necessary infrastructure for an
> IETF meeting, convenient travel connections (however you define
> that), a plausible cost structure (ditto).

My employeers have hosted two ietf meetings, QED.

> and no visa issues
> for anyone who might reasonably choose to participate in the
> IETF?

We've heard from the community where minimizing our exposure to visa is should 
be in our list of priorities. I know of no previous location, where I involved 
in the meeting planning where there were no visa issue.

>  Ideally, add "good sponsorship opportunities and likely
> sponsors" to those qualifications.  Unless that yields a list of
> at least moderate length, I repeat my comment about tradeoffs.
> 
>    john
> 

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