Oh, and *after* you book, it says Additional Charges 10.000 Percent service charge
So the charge is 10% higher than what's displayed. It would be nice if the full charge was more up front. People checking for budget in advance may be unaware of this. Tim On 23 Aug 2011, at 13:22, Tim Chown wrote: > The room rate I see is 8500 TWD, which is $293 a night. That is a Grand > King room, for 2 people. > > If you don't put G-23ET in the corporate/group box, it gets much worse! I'm > guessing the web link on the IETF site should read > http://taipei.grand.hyatt.com/hyatt/hotels/index.jsp?extCorporateId=G-23ET to > simplify that? > > On the plus side, flying out from Europe the time zones mean I don't need to > stay Saturday night, so that actually puts the total hotel cost down, since > the stay is 5 nights not the usual 6 (remembering that you need to fly in/out > including a Saturday night for the cheaper flight). > > Tim > > On 23 Aug 2011, at 12:57, Thomas Nadeau wrote: > >> >> >> >> >> On Aug 23, 2011, at 1:34 AM, John C Klensin <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> --On Monday, August 22, 2011 20:16 -0400 Ray Pelletier >>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> ... >>>> As for the rates, they are high. Taiwan is expensive, >>>> particularly given that the hotels know what our options are >>>> when we book the TICC. The Hyatt knew that foreign visitors >>>> needed to use the Hyatt as headquarters and charged >>>> accordingly. Since the time of our site visit, 2 new hotels >>>> have been constructed in the vicinity of the TICC (Le Meridien >>>> and W), which may provide more competition for Hyatt in these >>>> circumstances. At the time we were working on this event, >>>> there were no acceptable options. >>> >>> Ray, >>> >>> I know you want to find sponsors and go where the sponsors want >>> to go. I accept the explanation that you negotiated as hard as >>> you could for both room rates and cancellation policies. But I >>> have to wonder, especially in the light of Lixia's observation >>> about the US Govt rate (which, internationally, is often a >>> pretty good measure for the higher end of a reasonable rate in a >>> given city), whether there is a stopping rule. We were told in >>> Quebec that you had given up on one Southeast Asian city because >>> rooms would have cost over USD 300 a night. I don't remember >>> hearing about a sponsor there. What looks like USD 275 net is >>> not all that much less than USD 300, especially if the dollar >>> continues to sink. >>> >>> So, if you had a sponsor for a future meeting at that other >>> location, would an estimated USD 300 be acceptable? USD 350? >>> >>> I obviously don't have all of the information available to me >>> that you and the IAOC do, but it seems to be there is always >>> another alternative. If there are no local ones, that >>> alternative is usually described as "just say no and go >>> elsewhere". What I'm trying to understand, mostly for the >>> future and with the understanding that it is presumably much too >>> late for Taipei and the several following meetings, is whether >>> you would ever consider that an option for a meeting for which >>> you have a sponsor if you hold it in a particular place or if >>> you and the IAOC really believe there is no alternative under >>> those circumstances. >> >> I think we need to adopt a simple rule of thumb whereby we do not book >> venues where room rates of less than $200 USD are unavailable - sponsor or >> otherwise. >> >> Tom >> >> >>> >>> john >>> >>> >>> john >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Ietf mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Ietf mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf > > _______________________________________________ > Ietf mailing list > [email protected] > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf
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