In response to Sam's comment re whether the IAOC is responsive and/or transparent, if this is indeed a problem it needs to be fixed. As a founding member of the IAOC, I can attest that these two qualities, responsiveness and transparency, were the driving concerns that led to the creation of the IASA.
Having served on the IAOC and having watched successive administrations, I know first hand the old verity, "You can please all of the people some of the time and some of the people all of the time, but you can't please all of the people all of the time." Moreover, it's almost always the people that are unhappy that make the most noise. All of this is normal and to be expected. That said, the IETF is in full control of the IAOC, so if they're not responsive and/or not transparent, it's relatively easy to get their attention and/or replace them. But the more likely situation is that different subgroups within the IETF want different things, and it's simply impossible to satisfy everybody. There are surely a large fraction of attendees who like having everything in one place and who are relatively insensitive to the price. Whether that should be the prevailing answer is up to the overall community. The IAOC will surely do whatever the overall community wants, as long as it's actually feasible. If the community insists on contradictory or impossible results and then insists on blaming the IAOC, we'll simply have dysfunctional chaos. Let's get the facts laid out for all to see, figure out what choices we're going to make, and then live with the results. Thanks, Steve Full disclosures: 1. My brother, Dave Crocker, is currently on the IAOC. 2. I did not discuss this with him. In general, we have different value sets with respect to meetings (and many other things). 3. Whenever he and I are aligned, we're almost always right. On Aug 24, 2011, at 3:28 PM, Sam Hartman wrote: > > > 2) If I had to say yes or no in a parliamentary vote of confidence in > the IAOC, today my answer would probably be no. I feel that a lot of > concerns have been raised, and I don't find the responses very > convincing. When I've looked into issues with the IAOC, I haven't found > the visibility necessary to really evaluate things. > That to me is not a good combination. > _______________________________________________ > Ietf mailing list > Ietf@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf _______________________________________________ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf
