Hi,

I support adoption and publishing draft-kompella-l2vpn-l2vpn-07.txt as
informational RFC. Using BGP for auto-discovery and signalling of L2VPNs
is by all means a right approach.

The draft also makes it very clear that underlying transport is opaque
and allows to use any form of encapsulation for PE-PE data exchange.

In that light I would not recommend to make any references in it to
RFC4447 and treat both specs as fully independent and unreleated documents.

Best regards,
R.

> Speaking as an individual, the solution in this draft has been has been
> operationally deployed in a number of service provider networks, and it
> should be documented in an informational RFC.
> 
> Speaking as PWE3 co-chair, I would be happier if this draft required that
> routers that implement this solution also implement RFC 4447, that RFC 4447
> be configured as the default mechanism for pseudowire signaling, and that
> RFC 4447 was moved from an informational to a normative reference. In
> practice, I know that routers that implement this also do implement RFC
> 4447, but I would like to see it in the RFC as well.
> 
> Thanks,
> Andy
> 
> Subject: Last Call: (Layer 2 Virtual Private Networks Using BGP for
>> Auto-discovery and Signaling) to Informational RFC  Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011
>> 10:50:05 -0700  From: The IESG 
>> <[email protected]><[email protected]>  Reply-To:
>> [email protected]  To: IETF-Announce 
>> <[email protected]><[email protected]>
>>
>> The IESG has received a request from an individual submitter to consider
>> the following document:
>> - 'Layer 2 Virtual Private Networks Using BGP for Auto-discovery and
>>    Signaling'
>>   <draft-kompella-l2vpn-l2vpn-07.txt> as an Informational RFC
>>
>> The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits
>> final comments on this action. Please send substantive comments to 
>> [email protected] mailing lists by 2011-09-27. Exceptionally, comments may be
>> sent to [email protected] instead. In either case, please retain the
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>>
>> Abstract
>>
>>
>>    Layer 2 Virtual Private Networks (L2VPNs) based on Frame Relay or ATM
>>    circuits have been around a long time; more recently, Ethernet VPNs,
>>    including Virtual Private LAN Service, have become popular.
>>    Traditional L2VPNs often required a separate Service Provider
>>    infrastructure for each type, and yet another for the Internet and IP
>>    VPNs.  In addition, L2VPN provisioning was cumbersome.  This document
>>    presents a new approach to the problem of offering L2VPN services
>>    where the L2VPN customer's experience is virtually identical to that
>>    offered by traditional Layer 2 VPNs, but such that a Service Provider
>>    can maintain a single network for L2VPNs, IP VPNs and the Internet,
>>    as well as a common provisioning methodology for all services.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> The file can be obtained 
>> viahttp://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-kompella-l2vpn-l2vpn/
>>
>> IESG discussion can be tracked 
>> viahttp://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-kompella-l2vpn-l2vpn/
>>
>>
>> The following IPR Declarations may be related to this I-D:
>>
>>    http://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/1149/
>>
>>
>>
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