On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 1:29 PM, Keith Moore <[email protected]>wrote:

>
> On Sep 17, 2011, at 1:18 PM, Joel jaeggli wrote:
>
> > On 9/16/11 12:22 , Keith Moore wrote:
> >> On Sep 16, 2011, at 3:07 PM, hector wrote:
> >>
> >>> I don't see these ass "Wikis" but basically "blog style" flat
> >>> display of user comments, which I often do find useful, especially
> >>> for the user ("this way") upon user ("not always") follow ups.
> >>>
> >>> A Wiki is more where you can change the main content and perhaps
> >>> even the context.  I don't think that is a good idea for RFCs.
> >>
> >> I'm thinking in terms of a hybrid Wiki where the RFC content is
> >> static but the discussion is maintainable as a Wiki and can be
> >> visually associated with the RFC content.  You'd also want the RFC
> >> content to be clearly distinguished from the discussion.
> >
> > One of the assumptions here is that discussion without editorial
> > discretion can add color to static informaion. While the case for that
> > can certainly be made, we have abundant evidence of it not doing so in
> > the context of ietf mailing lists.
>
> we have abundant evidence of there being color added in the context of ietf
> mailing lists.  problem is, there's a lot more than color added there.
>
> a wiki is a different medium than email.   because people can alter and
> even delete contributions by others, there's some tendency to try to
> compromise in order to minimize change wars.   admittedly, it's an imperfect
> tendency.
>
>
Instead of having a wiki, why not have a wikipedia article for each RFC ?
Whatever problems we would have with change control,
wikipedia is already dealing with.

Regards
Marshall


> > RFC's (WG documents in general) are the editorial filter through which
> > we pass/preserve the contributed discussion that is deemed informative.
>
>
> this is not true of WG documents in general, which are often quite biased
> and occasionally one-sided.
>
> as for RFCs, there's a lot of overhead associated with them, which is part
> of why IETF has a difficult time keeping its documents current.
>
> Keith
>
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