My understanding is that there is not a stable agreed G.8113.1 document to 
reference.  Is my understanding incorrect?

Russ


On Dec 20, 2011, at 11:09 AM, [email protected] wrote:

> Hi Adrian, 
> 
> Thank you for finding time to respond to this request.  As you know I was 
> attending the same 2 week SG 15 meeting and was probably at least as busy as 
> you given my official role in the meeting. 
> 
> I will update draft-betts-itu-oam-ach-code-point early in the new year based 
> on  the results of SG 15 the ended last Friday and your comments.  I will 
> also discussan update of the shepherd write up  with Huub. 
> 
> Regards, 
> 
> Malcolm 
> 
> 
> 
> "Adrian Farrel" <[email protected]> 
> Sent by: [email protected]
> 09/12/2011 05:49 AM
> Please respond to
> [email protected]
> 
> To
> <[email protected]>, "'Huub helvoort'" 
> <[email protected]>
> cc
> [email protected], [email protected]
> Subject
> Questions about draft-betts-itu-oam-ach-code-point
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Hi Malcolm and Huub,
> 
> I have squeezed a little time from the current ITU-T meeting to look at your
> draft and write-up. I have also read the email threads on the IETF discussion
> list and the MPLS list. Sorry that this has taken me a week to process, but 
> your
> publication request came at pretty much the worst possible time for getting me
> to do this task.
> 
> I don't like proliferating threads across multiple mailing lists. On the other
> hand it is difficult to ensure that all the constituencies are present, so I 
> am
> perpetuating the cross-posting.
> 
> My review of the document...
> 
> 1. idnits (http://www.ietf.org/tools/idnits/) shows a couple of nits. I think
> only one of these is real (the spurious space in a citation). The other nits 
> are
> spurious caused by citations wrapping across lines. Could you please keep a 
> note
> of the nit so that you can fix it the next time the draft is respun or so it 
> can
> be captured in an RFC Editor Note at a later stage (you don't have to post a 
> new
> revision to address this now unless you really want to).
> 
> 2. This document requests a code point from a registry that contains code 
> points
> that are used equally for MPLS LSPs and pseudowires. I can't tell from the I-D
> whether it is your intention that your code point would also be applicable in
> both cases. What is your intention? Is this "obvious" from G.8113.1 or does it
> need to be clarified?
> 
> 
> My review of the write-up and discussions...
> 
> 3. There seems to be quite a feeling on the mailing lists that this document
> should be run through the MPLS working group. The write-up makes a case for
> progressing it as AD sponsored. As far as I can see, the main assertions to
> answer are as follows. Do you have a view on these points before I make a
> decision on what to do?
> 
> a. This is a proposal to use an MPLS code point and so is part of MPLS by
> definition.
> 
> b. The type of network being managed by the OAM described in G.8113.1 is an 
> MPLS
> network. Therefore, this is clearly relevant to the MPLS working .
> 
> Do you object to this going through the MPLS on principle, or were you just
> hoping to save the WG the work? If the latter, and if the WG wants to look at
> the draft, the easiest approach seems to be to redirect the work to the 
> working
> group.
> 
> 4. G.8113.1 is clearly important to understanding to which the code point is
> being put. Thus, an available and stable copy of group. G.8113.1 will be key 
> to
> the last call review of you I-D. Can you make a stable copy available (for
> example, through liaison)? How does the editing work currently in progress in
> the SG15 meeting affect that availability?
> 
> 5. Can you clarify for me why the suggested value has been suggested. This 
> will
> help guide IANA who would normally do their allocation in a "tidy" way.
> 
> Looking forward to your reply.
> 
> Thanks,
> Adrian
> 
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