On Jan 12, 2012, at 3:18 PM, John E Drake wrote:

> Snipped, comments inline.
> 
> 3. There seems to be quite a feeling on the mailing lists that this document
> should be run through the MPLS working group. The write-up makes a case for
> progressing it as AD sponsored. As far as I can see, the main assertions to
> answer are as follows. Do you have a view on these points before I make a
> decision on what to do?
> 
> a. This is a proposal to use an MPLS code point and so is part of MPLS by
> definition.
> 
> b. The type of network being managed by the OAM described in G.8113.1 is an 
> MPLS
> network. Therefore, this is clearly relevant to the MPLS working .
> 
> Do you object to this going through the MPLS on principle, or were you just
> hoping to save the WG the work? If the latter, and if the WG wants to look at
> the draft, the easiest approach seems to be to redirect the work to the 
> working
> group.
> 
> [MB]  G.8113.1 supports a subset of the functions defined in 
> draft-bhh-mpls-tp-oam-y1731-08.  The -00 version was posted in March 2009, 
> the draft was presented at several meetings in 2009 and early 2010 and had 
> extensive discussion on the MPLS mailing list.  However, the MPLS WG have, by 
> rough consensus, adopted a different approach.  Therefore, further review by 
> the MPLS WG is of little value. 
> 
> [JD]   Um, I don’t think so. 
> 
> Since, as you state above, G.8113.1 is  effectively draft-bhh and since 
> draft-bhh was explicitly rejected by the MPLS WG, your draft, which requests 
> a code point for G.8113.1, is basically an attempt to subvert the decision by 
> the MPLS WG to reject draft-bhh by attempting to bypass the WG with an 
> individual submission. 
> 
> So, I think it  is clear that your draft belongs in the MPLS WG. 
> 
> Incidentally, the MPLS/GMPLS change process was put in place in reaction to 
> the publication of another individual submission, RFC3474, which was 
> completely non-interoperable with standard RSVP, a surprisingly similar 
> situation.
> 

        Well said John. I couldn't have put it any better myself, and so agree 
with that statement %100.

        --Tom


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