Agree %100.

On Jan 25, 2012, at 4:50 PM, Adrian Farrel wrote:

> Please also see US patent 20090204681 visible at  
> http://ip.com/patapp/US20090204681
>  
> In my opinion, this second last call should be suspended until this 
> significant breach of the IETF's IPR policy set out in BCP79 has been 
> resolved.
>  
> While it is important to find out what the IETF community's view of this 
> situation is, there are two questions:
>  
> 1. What does the WG think about the I-D being IPR encumbered and do they want 
> to develop an alternate solution that is not encumbered?
>  
> 2. How will the IETF handle the breach of IPR policy?
>  
> I believe the document should be returned to the working group who are the 
> main victims of the disruptive behaviour by the author.
>  
> Thanks,
> Adrian
>  
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Adam 
> Roach
> Sent: 25 January 2012 21:36
> To: [email protected]
> Cc: [email protected]; The IESG; IETF-Announce
> Subject: Re: Second Last Call: <draft-ietf-sieve-notify-sip-message-08.txt> 
> (Sieve Notification Mechanism: SIP MESSAGE) to Proposed Standard
>  
> Just to make sure I understand the sequence of events:
> August 21, 2007: Huawei files a patent (CN 200710076523.4) on using SIP for 
> SIEVE notifications. The inventor is listed as a single Huawei employee.
> August 30, 2007: That same Huawei employee and two additional authors publish 
> an IETF draft ( draft-melnikov-sieve-notify-sip-message-00) on using SIP for 
> SIEVE notifications.
> September 2007 - September 2011: The SIEVE working group discusses and 
> improves the IETF draft.
> October 6, 2011: The IESG approves the IETF draft for publication as an RFC.
> December 14th, 2011: Huawei files an IPR disclosure with the IETF informing 
> it of patent CN 200710076523.4
> 
> Is that correct? Am I leaving anything out?
> 
> /a
> 
> 
> On 1/25/12 2:17 PM, The IESG wrote:
>  
> The IESG has received a request from the Sieve Mail Filtering Language WG
> (sieve) to consider the following document:
> - 'Sieve Notification Mechanism: SIP MESSAGE'
>   <draft-ietf-sieve-notify-sip-message-08.txt> as a Proposed Standard
>  
> Last calls were earlier issued on version -05 of this document and this
> document was approved by the IESG on 2011-10-06. Subsequently,
> an IPR disclosure statement for this draft was submitted.
> This Second Last Call is intended to determine whether the community
> is still comfortable with publication of this document in light of the IPR 
> statement.
> The relevant IPR statement is available at:
>  
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/1658/
>  
> The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits
> final comments on this action. Please send substantive comments to the
> [email protected] mailing lists by 2012-02-08. Exceptionally, comments may be
> sent to [email protected] instead. In either case, please retain the
> beginning of the Subject line to allow automated sorting.
>  
> Abstract
>  
>  
>    This document describes a profile of the Sieve extension for
>    notifications, to allow notifications to be sent over SIP MESSAGE.
>  
>  
>  
>  
> The file can be obtained via
> http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-sieve-notify-sip-message/
>  
> IESG discussion can be tracked via
> http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-sieve-notify-sip-message/
>  
>  
> The following IPR Declarations may be related to this I-D:
>  
>    http://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/1658/
>  
>  
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