All,

Based on this explanation from Scott I withdraw my suggestion.  Text can
stay as it is.

Eliot

On 6/8/12 9:46 PM, Bradner, Scott wrote:
> On Jun 7, 2012, at 10:20 PM, Paul Hoffman wrote:
>
>> On Jun 7, 2012, at 6:13 PM, Bradner, Scott wrote:
>>
>>> On Jun 7, 2012, at 7:09 PM, Paul Hoffman wrote:
>>>
>>>> On May 30, 2012, at 11:22 PM, Eliot Lear wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>   • It's probably worth adding a word or two about the fact that the ISOC 
>>>>> Board is the final appellate avenue in the standardization process.  In 
>>>>> this way it may also make sense to move Section 3.2.1 further back behind 
>>>>> the IAB.
>>>> I have heard that as well, but cannot find it in RFC 2026 or any of the 
>>>> RFCs that update 2026 (3667 3668 3932 3978 3979 5378 5657 5742 6410). It 
>>>> should only be in the Tao if we can point to where the rule comes from.
>>>
>>> see RFC 2026 section 6.5.3
>>>
>>> 6.5.3 Questions of Applicable Procedure
>>>
>>>  Further recourse is available only in cases in which the procedures
>>>  themselves (i.e., the procedures described in this document) are
>>>  claimed to be inadequate or insufficient to the protection of the
>>>  rights of all parties in a fair and open Internet Standards Process.
>>>  Claims on this basis may be made to the Internet Society Board of
>>>  Trustees.  The President of the Internet Society shall acknowledge
>>>  such an appeal within two weeks, and shall at the time of
>>>  acknowledgment advise the petitioner of the expected duration of the
>>>  Trustees' review of the appeal.  The Trustees shall review the
>>>  situation in a manner of its own choosing and report to the IETF on
>>>  the outcome of its review.
>>>
>>>  The Trustees' decision upon completion of their review shall be final
>>>  with respect to all aspects of the dispute.
>>>
>>> note that the appeal to the ISOC BopT is only if the claim is that the 
>>> rules are broken 
>>> not the application of the rules
>> Exactly right. What Eliot said, and others have said, is that the ISOC board 
>> is the "final appellate avenue in the standardization process". That's quite 
>> different than "the rules are broken".
> just to be clear - saying "final appellate avenue in the standardization 
> process". could be read as meaning
> that a appeal of a technical decision could be made to the ISOC Board and 
> that is not the case - 
> this is why I used different language
>
> not sure which you were supporting
>
> Scott
>
>>> there has never been such an appeal
>>
>> Happily noted.
>>
>> --Paul Hoffman
>>
>
>

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