On Sun, 2012-07-29 at 13:28 -0700, Hannes Tschofenig wrote:

> > 
> > Do you think that corporate domination of "open" standards development is 
> > OK?
> > 
> 
> The barrier for participation is low since there are no membership fees, etc. 


For participation, yes, all that is needed is an email account; if one
wishes to attend meetings (just the main ones - let's ignore interims),
the bar rises considerably.  The chances of dominating a WG or attaining
a leadership position in the IETF are very close to zero without meeting
attendance.  I spend about 10% of my gross income on travel, meeting
fees, etc. for IETF meetings; I don't consider that to be trivial.  

> Nevertheless, those who participate in standardization efforts have to spend 
> their time. 


And somebody's money: I spend about 10% of my gross income on travel,
meeting fees, etc. for IETF meetings; I don't consider that to be
trivial. 


> So, typically those who participate for a longer period of time need to have 
> some incentives. These incentives often come from working for a specific 
> company.
> 
> We cannot force anyone to participate in any of our working groups. In the 
> OAuth case we have lots of other people participating but they typically ask 
> questions and provide implementation feedback rather than trying to steer the 
> standardization work. 
> 
> Ciao
> Hannes
> 
> PS: Eran was also working for a big corporation, namely Yahoo. I could 
> imagine that Yahoo also had some incentives to pay Eran for his participation 
> in this work. 


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