Hannes, On 04/12/2012 08:28, Tschofenig, Hannes (NSN - FI/Espoo) wrote: > Hi Brian, > > >> The point is that we work in public, so the whole community should >> know. > > Working group mailing lists are also public.
Well yes, but we are talking here about (virtual) meetings. > >> I regularly attend WG meetings where I am not subscribed - it's one of >> the >> side benefits of the week-long meetings - and who's to say that I might >> not >> want to drop into OAuth too? > > Are you talking about IETF meetings? I am talking about conference calls > here. There's no difference in principle. > > Are you regularly joining conference calls of working groups where you are > not subscribed to the mailing lists? No. My point is that I have the right to. If not, it's a design team, and that's a different discussion. >> Suppose I happened to notice (I am making this up) that the foobar WG >> has >> decided to use the IPv6 Flow Label for an unintended purpose? I'd like >> to know if they are going to have a conf call, so that I can explain >> RFC 6437 to them. Otherwise, I have no interest in foobar. > How would you find this out from the announcement of the conference call > given that the agenda does not have to announced at the same time? (unless > you join every conference call to figure out whether there is something of > interest for you?) I assume that the announcement would point to the agenda. Or I could look at the WG mail archive at that point. In any case, I couldn't complain later that the discussion had been kept private. I don't see that informing the secretariat about virtual interims is a significant burden on WG Chairs, compared to all the other work involved. Brian Brian