We had such a WG-Chairs session dedicated exactly to this topic (document shepherding) at IETF-82 - including a panel of document shepherds and ADs sharing experience and discussing ways to improve the process and make the shepherds role more efficient.
Dan > -----Original Message----- > From: ietf-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:ietf-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of > Alia Atlas > Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2013 1:12 AM > To: Benoit Claise > Cc: John Leslie; IETF IETF > Subject: Re: Appointment of a Transport Area Director > > Perhaps even dedicate a WG-Chairs lunch meeting to it? I think the role > has grown over the years. > > Alia > > On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 6:05 PM, Benoit Claise <bcla...@cisco.com> wrote: > > On 4/03/2013 15:57, John Leslie wrote: > >> > >> Eggert, Lars <l...@netapp.com> wrote: > >>> > >>> On Mar 4, 2013, at 13:18, Eric Burger <ebur...@standardstrack.com> > wrote: > >>> > >>>> I will say it again - the IETF is organized by us. Therefore, this > >>>> situation is created by us. We have the power to fix it. We have to > >>>> want to fix it. Saying there is nothing we can do because this is > >>>> the way it is is the same as saying we do not WANT to fix it. > >>> > >>> what is "the fix"? > >> > >> There is an obvious place to look for ideas: the directorates. > See: > >> > >> http://www.ietf.org/iesg/directorate.html > > > > That would help if the AD job would not be a full time job. Sure. > > And I see some suggestions in this email thread to rely more on the > > directorates. That makes sense (but reviews vary greatly, however) One > > track not mentioned in this thread is the document shepherd. > > The document shepherd job, when done according to RFC 4858 (see > > specifically section 3.2 and 3.3) would save a huge amount of time to > the AD. > > Recently, for a single draft, I spent hoouuurrrssss trying to track > > all the open issues from the directorates and the IESG, and chasing > > the authors. On top of taking some time, I had to be become expert for > > every single aspect of the specification to evaluate whether the > > answer was right... while the document shepherd has already the > expertise. > > We should probably stress (again) the importance of document shepherd > > function... > > > > Regards, Benoit > > > >
