Mary,
There's a difference between evaluating someone based on what they said
(as you
point out is part of the NomCom's job) and evaluating someone based on what
somebody else
said about what they said.
If - in the latter case - someone offering feedback based strictly on
what a candidate
had to say about themselves was completely up-front about that, then the NomCom
could try
to factor that in when considering the feedback.
I don't think that it is a good idea to try to rely on people to do
this, nor do I think it is
completely obvious how someone on the NomCom could necessarily arrive at a
really good
way to "factor that in."
Your second point is certainly valid. There is no doubt that a
personal CV from each
candidate would help everyone. So maybe we're just quibbling over exactly what
sorts of
candidate responses it would be helpful to disclose.
:-)
--
Eric
-----Original Message-----
From: Mary Barnes [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 4:22 PM
To: Eric Gray
Cc: Bob Hinden; [email protected]; [email protected]
Subject: Re: Nomcom off in the wilderness: Transport AD
Importance: High
Eric,
On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 2:59 PM, Eric Gray <[email protected]> wrote:
> Bob,
>
> This confuses me. Are you saying that you would be more able
> to give feedback on someone you don't know if you knew what they might have
> to say about themselves?
>
> I would think that - if you don't know somebody - you can't
> give feedback on them (and that is precisely as it should be).
[MB] This then begs the question in my opinion as to how Nomcom can evaluate
nominees from the questionnaires then?
Also, As I noted in my previous response, even when you know someone you likely
don't know everything about what they have accomplished or you have forgotten
some things. [/MB]
>
> --
> Eric
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf
> Of Bob Hinden
> Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 2:45 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Cc: Bob Hinden; [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Nomcom off in the wilderness: Transport AD
>
> Hi,
>
>> Just to be clear: I am not suggesting public discussion. I'm suggesting
>> that candidates make their responses available to the community, so the
>> community can have additional information for providing feedback to the
>> Nomcom.
>
> I agree with Dave on this.
>
> I try to give feedback on the NomCom lists of candidates. For people I know,
> I can do this, for people I don't know well it's difficult. It would help me
> if I could read some of the material they submitted with their acceptance of
> the nomination to see why they want the job, and their qualifications and
> experience.
>
> The IETF has grown a lot over the years to the point where most people don't
> know all of the candidates.
>
> Bob
>
