On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 7:09 AM, Toerless Eckert <eck...@cisco.com> wrote:
>> PS.: I just spent a day at CeBIT.  One guy there reported to that he has 
>> seen 35000 active devices on his WiFi snooper.
>> I'm not quite sure what that means, but he seemed to be implying "at a 
>> specific point in time".
>> Go congestion control that.  And then "prove" that your solution works.
>
> Bear proof ?
>
> 802.11 CSMA/CA does make sure that every participants gets so little bandwidth
> in this situation that L3 congestion control is not the issue.
>
> (I don't have to proof that i am faster than the bear, just that there is 
> somebody slower)
>
>> Somehow, we still seem to be deploying WiFi, nonetheless, and some even 
>> consider WiFi a success.
>
> Its being used and continues to make money, and there is nothing else that 
> works better
> because otherwise that would have been successfull.
>
>> Would your hypothetical AD waiting for "sufficient work was done" have 
>> approved WiFi?  In 1998?
>
> Do you think with your type of AD requirements we would have better WiFi 
> today ?
>
> Seriously, i think you're overthinking it. There are expert group 
> participants, there are WG-Chairs
> and there are ADs. I think this discussion circulates way too much around 
> thinking that we must
> shift technical expertise two layers up the management chain. Its a nice 
> concept, it gives a warm
> and fuzzy community feeling, we had the luxury enjoying it in many areas in 
> the past, but it
> does not scale nor is there IMHO any good proof that it works better than 
> what i described
> and what commercial companies exercise. In addition i would contend it tends 
> to burn great
> technical experts in the AD role. Yes, i can see how its cool to be burned 
> fast with all the
> stuff you get to see and judge in an AD role - for a while.
>
> Cheers
>     Toerless

Well said, Toerless.

Greg

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