I think you may be over-estimating the filtering power of the Internet-Draft system.
On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 2:08 PM, Sam Crooks <sam.a.cro...@gmail.com> wrote: > not a Joke, Warren (and IETF). > > The petition process is the best I have found to put in unsolicited > suggestions. The RFI process and public comments are the ways to put in > solicited comments on some topic. There is not a good merit-based process > to put suggestions and ideas into the government, > > > I am trying to get an effective one created. The IETF Internet Draft > process is the most effective I can think of for a grassroots process to > take input and kill the Internet trolls who hijack such processes.. > > I would appreciate your help, as well as the rest of the networking > industry's help, in highlighting the issue to people in the federal > government who can change it and put in an effective process. > > There is innovation going on in the government, and they are starting to > put in place processes for innovation internally, but the government does > not have an effective process for gathering ideas from the public and > validating them based on merit. The Whitehouse's "We the People" website > is a popularity contest which occasionally produces interesting things, > like the recent "Build the Death Star" petition response from the > Whitehouse. > > General Services Administration (GSA) is probably one of the most > innovative government agencies in relation to IT. NIST and DHS NPPD and > the DHS S&T directorates are very innovative as well, particularly in > regards to cybersecurity and information assurance. State department as > well. > > Casey Coleman of the GSA writes a great blog on the innovation occurring > in the government, and is one of the most forward looking CIOs. > http://gsablogs.gsa.gov/innovation/ > > > GSA is trying to innovate. Read this article: > http://www.govexec.com/management/2013/03/hunting-great-ideas-should-be-everyday-affair-gsa-chief-says/61674/ > > > The Whitehouse is doing some interesting things as well > > Hackathons<http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2013/03/02/looking-back-white-house-hackathon> > Exposing government data sets Open Government > initiative<http://www.whitehouse.gov/open/around> > Data.gov > Presidential Innovation Fellows > program<http://www.whitehouse.gov/innovationfellows> > > Help me highlight a great process that works (at least considerably better > than petitions) for collecting and vetting ideas from anybody on how and > why something should be changed, and perhaps it will be implemented. > > > The petition: http://wh.gov/G29p <http://wh.gov/G29p> > > Regards, > > Sam Crooks > http://www.linkedin.com/in/samcrooks/ > sam.a.cro...@gmail.com > > > On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 10:22 AM, Warren Kumari <war...@kumari.net> wrote: > >> 'm assuming this is a joke… but my subtlety filters are turned down, so >> who knows... >> >> "The Internet Draft process of the IETF works so effectively at filtering >> out Internet trolls because of the rigor and structure required for a >> proposal to be submitted." >> >> W >> On Mar 5, 2013, at 9:55 PM, Sam Crooks <sam.a.cro...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> > Hi all: >> > >> > If you agree, please sign this petition. I'd appreciate your help in >> crossing the thresholds required for consideration. >> > >> > Regards, >> > >> > Sam >> > >> > >> > >> > Text of the Petition: >> > >> > "Create a Request for Comment (RFC) process similar to the IETF's for >> taking in suggestions for innovation from public. >> > I believe that the "We the People" initiative is a good idea, >> grassroots-level suggestions, but a less than ideal implementation for >> collection of innovation suggestions. >> > >> > I propose that the Federal Government implement a process and structure >> similar to the Internet Engineering Task Force (IETF) Internet Draft and >> Request For Comment (RFC) processes and organization, which has proven to >> be *extremely* effective at filtering the Internet trolls, which have >> hijacked the "We the People" website and at collecting and acting on valid >> innovation proposals from anyone with an idea. >> > >> > The Internet Draft process of the IETF works so effectively at >> filtering out Internet trolls because of the rigor and structure required >> for a proposal to be submitted. >> > >> > http://www.ietf.org"; >> > >> > >> > >> > http://wh.gov/G29p >> > >> > >> > >> https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/create-request-comment-rfc-process-similar-ietfs-taking-suggestions-innovation-public/CqHFnjJc >> > >> > >> > >> >> -- >> "Working the ICANN process is like being nibbled to death by ducks, >> it takes forever, it doesn't make sense, and in the end we're still dead >> in the water." >> -- Tom Galvin, VeriSign's vice president for government relations. >> >> >> >> >
