-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 3/20/13 2:37 PM, Jeffrey Haas wrote: > On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 03:18:24PM -0400, Eric Burger wrote: >> How much is the concentration of corporate participation in the >> IETF a result of market forces, like consolidation and >> bankruptcy, as opposed to nefarious forces, like a company hiring >> all of the I* leadership? We have mechanisms to deal with the >> latter, but there is not much we can do about the former. > > Having started in the IETF at a much smaller vendor, it's less a > nefarious thing than it is a money thing. > > When you're talking about participation at the conferences, the > cost of flying someone to the venue, paying for the conference fee > and covering hotel can be a big burden for smaller companies. They > then have to pick and choose which groups it makes sense to get a > human to attend. > > Even on-the-list participation can be a financial burden. Someone > has to spend a chunk of their time doing standards work instead of > other things like code. > > I* leadership is even messier. IETF is effectively asking for half > or more of the time of those people. They are effectively being > given a form of patronage to do IETF work.
+1 When I worked at a small vendor, I attended IETF meetings only when there was work happening directly related to what my company care about. I *might* have been able to be a WG chair, but there is no way I could have been an area director until after our small company was acquired by Cisco. Peter - -- Peter Saint-Andre https://stpeter.im/ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.18 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJRSkK+AAoJEOoGpJErxa2pKAoP/ibKBeI4RBuP8dGnuFqOqALX JhgeStw0SMainyQ2YvLXXlFueQzAn3+mMpLa4OsnsvaBSZMhX/hvxDbRD5OA9rFT Jock8WteQHJwi9pj4GIVA5Ck9JctxHeHXpe33tDVlDcoqYyGafO9Y+r+JZqnwjYo Ao6iNLz6MMOXnhZwbWcnLjP5AcA72R0oevdB6h01F00gqhi2E90Pao/2Lup6V7q8 6qP6S5ZqCxnio/pSMMorv3tyDl3FvARn03vLhyx1E1BAT0Dyz8aikhr3uG/ajqE0 2b51YxJdfnvnAyEEkAAtpk7RMkgTV3be5ghB0cMQMwAClwKcbQ0VUtlUEEemi0rO LFEWHQxEuk+phTC93NJN/a5topZAQ2401uTl+prye8niT05H/aSx+7oGXOlLNjXQ 5SCmCExcFzitVDx3O3vUaBbmLKdK0l3Tn7kBGAV4XRhLRXkDaY7lA9+ML19olK7J x9jvqvJs2CaD3+iJoss2LqNJikIjQ0MOeECwVa8RKZzXCaW35WxP/QQC44teHw3S lhra+sglrCiiElW7dBp62Jm8o9Qj+wsLBHL881R/rDAm10QmpJ+onbRc2AM0mgVM JY/S4wpLjtEqDVoj9f80DuuTAEMj4FfhaKAcImLVOMJCQ8oas7fPZ9K/t2abus9j wWCL8CONclaQ81gZHrEt =X3gZ -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
