On 3/29/13 12:58 PM, "John Levine" <[email protected]> wrote:


>>As a result, it is questionable whether any IPv6 address-based
>>reputation system can be successful (at least those based on voluntary
>>principles.)
>
>It can probably work for whitelisting well behaved senders, give or take
>the DNS cache busting issues of IPv6 per-message lookups.
>
>Since a bad guy can easily hop to a new IP for every message (offering
>interesting new frontiers in listwashing) I agree that it's a losing
>battle for blacklisting, other than blocking large ranges of hostile
>networks.

Agree. The IP blacklisting that worked well for IPv4 is completely
unsuited for IPv6 (I'd go as far as to say it is a complete failure, no
matter if you look at different size prefixes or not).

The only model that I personally can see working at the moment for IPv6 is
a mix of domain-based reputation and whitelisting. I like domain-based
better since it is managed by sending domains on a distributed basis.

Mail acceptance for IPv4 worked inclusively - receivers accept unless IP
reputation or other factors failed. IMHO with IPv6 that model may need to
be turned around to an exclusive one - so receivers will not accept mail
unless certain factors are met (like domain-based authentication or the
IPv6 address is on a whitelist). I'd expect MAAWG will continue to be a
good place for mail ops folks to work through this stuff.

- Jason




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