On Apr 8, 2013, at 10:19 PM, Måns Nilsson <[email protected]> wrote:
> Subject: Re: Proposed solution for DPEP (Diversity Problem Entry Point) - > IETF April 1 jokes. Date: Mon, Apr 08, 2013 at 05:57:54AM -0800 Quoting > Melinda Shore ([email protected]): >> I am absolutely not suggesting changing anything other than the >> unfortunate attitude that the right response to someone missing the joke >> is to read them out of the meeting/declare them anathema or unworthy or not >> members of this community. Your beef isn't with me, it's with Måns. > > To clarify: > > I was thinking of vendors, not people . Hey! That's hurtful. ;-) > The vendor that does not invest > in its staff enough to expose them to the IETF culture may not supply > my network with code and boxes. The IETF is an SDO. Standards are important in the creation of boxes and the code that runs on them, but there's a lot more that goes into making good code or a good box. I don't believe that appreciating the in-jokes of the IETF, or an understanding of the fine points of rough consensus are necessary for making good boxes. The culture of the IETF may or may not be crucial for the functioning of the IETF, but I don't think you need to be in on it to implement some RFC. > People who initially fail to appreciate the jokes for what they are > should be enlightened in the most gentle way possible. > > At no time have I proposed or held the belief that public humiliation > is in any way acceptable. > > -- > Måns Nilsson primary/secondary/besserwisser/machina > MN-1334-RIPE +46 705 989668 > We have DIFFERENT amounts of HAIR --
