On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 7:29 PM, Keith Moore <[email protected]>wrote:

> On 05/17/2013 10:21 PM, Andy Bierman wrote:
>
>>
>> I notice that nowhere on this list is any mention of the charter
>> milestones
>> or dates.  Is the Foo Proto draft due in 14 months or is it 14 months
>> behind
>> schedule?  If the latter, why isn't the Foo WG meeting at the IETF?
>>
>>
> I don't think milestones will be useful unless and until:
>
> (a) they're defined in terms of not only concrete but also meaningful
> goals (e.g. "complete problem definition", "identify affected parties and
> groups representing their interests", "complete outline of initial design",
> but NOT "revise document X");
> (b) we start automatically suspending the activities of groups that fail
> to meet them (no meetings, no new I-Ds accepted, mailing list traffic
> blocked), until such groups are formally rechartered; and
> (c) IESG is reluctant to recharter groups that have repeatedly failed to
> meet milestones, especially if those groups haven't produced evidence of
> significant progress.
>
>
I think we can find some middle ground between "ignore charter milestones
completely"
and "autobot to terminate WGs behind schedule". :-)

Keith
>
>
Andy

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