On 05/23/2013 09:38 PM, Antonio M. Moreiras wrote:
> Hi. That's great news!
> 
> I think that a meeting in Buenos Aires will foster the participation in
> our region. Including Brazilian participation. Probably it will be a
> great opportunity for a lot of people to participate for the first time,
> and come to know the process, and become involved.

I know many of us know this, but its worth saying. People from
*anywhere* can participate now, via email.

There is no need to wait for a nearby meeting. I'd say starting
to participate via email makes such a meeting far more likely
if participants turn up and do good technical work.

S.


> 
> It is important to note that sometimes it's not so easy for us
> Brazilians, and Latin-americans, in general, to get visas for other
> countries. For USA, for instance. And it is true that , in general, it
> is easy to get a visa for Argentina.
> 
> Regards,
> Antonio M. Moreiras.
> 
>>>>     -------- Original Message --------
>>>>     Subject: IETF Meeting in South America
>>>>     Date: Thu, 23 May 2013 08:54:12 -0700
>>>>     From: The IAOC <bob.hin...@gmail.com <mailto:bob.hin...@gmail.com>>
>>>>     To: IETF Announcement List <ietf-annou...@ietf.org
>>>>     <mailto:ietf-annou...@ietf.org>>
>>>>     CC: ietf@ietf.org <mailto:ietf@ietf.org>
>>>>
>>>>     As you may know the IAOC has been investigating the feasibility of
>>>>     having an IETF
>>>>     meeting in South America.  There was a site visit to South
>>>>     America last
>>>>     February.
>>>>     We have found two venues that we believe will support a
>>>>     successful IETF
>>>>     meeting
>>>>     and we would like to get feedback from the community.
>>>>
>>>>     The venues are in Buenos Aires.  They meet our requirements for
>>>>     the meeting
>>>>     space, networking, nearby restaurants and bars, hotel room rates
>>>>     in the
>>>>     mid $200
>>>>     dollar range, nearby alternate hotels at a broad range of prices,
>>>>     nice
>>>>     area in the
>>>>     city, safe, direct international flights, and accessible visas.  The
>>>>     IAOC thinks we
>>>>     could have a successful IETF meeting in Buenos Aires and that
>>>>     attendees
>>>>     would
>>>>     like the venues.
>>>>
>>>>     There has been a consistent level of IETF participation from
>>>>     South and
>>>>     Central
>>>>     America, and it has been growing since IETF82.  The data on this is
>>>>     posted at
>>>>
>>>>        http://iaoc.ietf.org/documents/IETF-Regional-Attendance-00.pdf.
>>>>
>>>>     The current meeting regional rotation (announced at IETF79)
>>>>     allows for an
>>>>     occasional IETF meeting outside of our main regions (Europe,
>>>>     North America,
>>>>     Asia/Pacific).
>>>>
>>>>     IETF standards are made more valuable the more relevant they are
>>>>     and the
>>>>     more
>>>>     uptake they get.  IETF standards are also made more robust when all
>>>>     perspectives
>>>>     are represented during their development.  Encouraging growing
>>>>     participation
>>>>     will help strengthen the Internet, further encourage
>>>>     participation from
>>>>     those areas
>>>>     that will see the most growth in the coming years, and will help
>>>>     advance
>>>>     the IETF
>>>>     in political and international circles which is becoming more of an
>>>>     imperative.
>>>>
>>>>     We have asked the IESG for their feedback and they are supportive
>>>>     of a
>>>>     meeting in
>>>>     South America if there is community support and active
>>>>     participants attend.
>>>>
>>>>     Things to consider are that it will be a long trip for the
>>>>     majority of
>>>>     IETFers and the
>>>>     air fares are more expensive (about 10% to 20% higher than
>>>>     average), though
>>>>     restaurants are less expensive.  This would be a case where most
>>>>     IETFers
>>>>     would
>>>>     bear more travel pain and expense.
>>>>
>>>>     The IAOC would like to understand if the IETF community thinks
>>>>     that the IETF
>>>>     should have a meeting in the next few years in Buenos Aires.  The
>>>>     IAOC would
>>>>     also like to get feedback on how we can ensure the meeting is as
>>>>     successful as
>>>>     possible and on ways to grow participation in the region.
>>>>
>>>>     We have set up a survey at
>>>>      https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/NWYLQCD  where
>>>>     you can indicate your likelihood of attending, and we encourage
>>>>     you to
>>>>     send your
>>>>     general feedback to the IETF list <ietf@ietf.org
>>>>     <mailto:ietf@ietf.org>>.
>>>>
>>>>     Thanks,
>>>>     Bob Hinden
>>>>     IAOC Chair
> 
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