On Jun 19, 2013, at 4:29 PM, Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpen...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> On 19/06/2013 18:25, Patrik Fältström wrote:
>> On 18 jun 2013, at 18:54, Jari Arkko <jari.ar...@piuha.net> wrote:
>>
>>> As for the rest of the discussion - I'm sure there are things to be
>>> improved in ICANN. I'd suggest though that some of the feedback might be
>>> better placed in an ICANN discussion than on IETF list. And is not like
>>> there'd be nothing to improve on our side :-) Lets focus on IETF aspects
>>> here.
>>
>> I think this is the correct strategy, BUT, I see as a very active
>> participant in ICANN (chair of SSAC) that work in ICANN could be easier if
>> some "more" technical standards where developed in IETF,
>
+ lots.
If these are not developed in the IETF, we run the risk of ICANN doing
technical stuff.
As someone whose time is now[0] split between ICANN and IETF, I can tell you
something -- you[1] *really* don't want ICANN developing technical standard.
> A pre-condition for that is that technical and operational problem statements
> are formulated, which could be sent to appropriate WGs or used to justify
> a BOF. If ICANN could focus on that instead of solutionism or committeeism,
> progress should be possible.
Yup. This message needs to be properly communicated though -- Suzanne Woolf has
been attempting (and being fairly effective) to do so.
W
[0]: I, along with some other IETF folk, serve on the SSAC under Patrik.
[1]: You in the general sense, not you as in Brian or Patrik -- although I'm
guessing you don't either. Are you confused yet with which you you are?
>
> Brian
>
>> and moved forward along standards track, that ICANN can reference. Same with
>> some epp-related issues, and also DNS-related, which I must admit I think
>> has stalled in the IETF. When that happens, ICANN start to "invent" or at
>> least discuss IETF related issues -- which I think is non optimal. But on
>> the other hand, if IETF do not move forward, then what should ICANN do?
>>
>> I will btw be the first few days (until including Tuesday or so) at IETF in
>> Berlin and am happy to discuss this issue with anyone interested.
>>
>> Patrik Fältström
>> Chair SSAC, ICANN
>>
>> .
>>
>
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