I agree with your suggestion Christer. Remote-participants have right
to register their attendance because they do attend remotely and IETF
SHOULD register their information if available. Last meetings I did
not like that I was not registered because I am remote, but now I feel
more welcomed.

 I think the location of remote participant at the meeting time can be
variable per participant (so can be distracting). Even participants
that attend some meeting sessions may be remote in others or attend
both ways at same time, so I think it is better to know/register how
many are only-remote and at which group-sessions and for how long, and
how many remote inputs per session. Then the registered info are
useful for IETF to improve it participation per meetings or
meeting-locations.

AB

On 7/25/13, Christer Holmberg <christer.holmb...@ericsson.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Whatever the information is used for, or not used for, I think it would be
> useful to know the number of remote participants, and where they are
> located.
>
> Regards,
>
> Christer
>
>
>
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>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: SM [s...@resistor.net]
> To: Christer Holmberg [christer.holmb...@ericsson.com]
> CC: John C Klensin [john-i...@jck.com]; ietf@ietf.org [ietf@ietf.org]
> Subject: Re: Remote participants access to Meeting Mailing Lists was Re: BOF
> posters in the welcome reception
> Hi Christer,
> At 13:54 24-07-2013, Christer Holmberg wrote:
>>Why couldn't remote participants register to the meeting like all
>>other participants?
>>
>>Remote participation would of course still be free, but it would
>>allow remote participants to subscribe to the attendee list in the
>>same way as other participants.
>
> A quick scan of that list shows the following topics:
>
>    - coffee, sims
>
>    - mailing list for IETF women
>
> and the following comment:
>
>    "I'm not sure why I should be required to give my contact information to
>     get a document prepared by the Brussels airport for Brussels
> passengers."
>
>>In addition, it would provide better knowledge to IETF about the
>>number of remote participants, where they are physically located
>>(which might be useful input when planning future meeting locations) etc.
>
> I doubt that the IETF chooses its meeting location based on where the
> remote participants are located.
>
> I'll go off-topic first.  Mr Reschke once asked "I was just trying to
> understand *why* the archive can't be at
> <http://www.ietf.org/tao/archive>".  Mr Housley replied that "I was
> told that we cannot have http://www.ietf.org/tao directed to the
> document and also be the directory containing the archive
> directory".  Mr Hansen provided some technical details about how that
> can be done.  The point here is it might be better to have a good
> answer as some IETF participant might deconstruct the answer and find
> the flaw in it.
>
> Mr Klensin's message was about how to find out about the 87all
> mailing list.  Participants within the inner circle know how to find
> it.  The rest of the participants will not be able to find that
> information as it is not easily accessible through the
> www.ietf.org<http://www.ietf.org>
> web site.  There is probably a lack of information about what
> information is provided through the ietf-announce@ mailing list.
>
> Regards,
> -sm
>
>
>

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