Hi Stefan,

For sure, correctly parsing CIF files is challenging, and the error messages we 
get from pymatgen for why a particular CIF could not be fully interpreted are 
not always very helpful.  Some programs generate CIF but are just missing key 
information or use tags that are not recognized.  OTOH, there are a lot of CIF 
files that do work.

If you’re having trouble with 40% of the CIF files, it seems likely that other 
people are having trouble with similar files.  Sending a few of those to us 
might be able to help us figure out if there is a systematic problem that we 
can fix.

--Matt


From: Mangold, Stefan (IPS) <stefan.mang...@kit.edu>
Date: Sunday, September 29, 2024 at 6:21 AM
To: Matthew Newville <newvi...@cars.uchicago.edu>
Cc: XAFS Analysis using Ifeffit <ifeffit@millenia.cars.aps.anl.gov>
Subject: Re: Can't get access to WebAtoms via 
https://urldefense.us/v3/__http://millenia.cars.aps.anl.gov/webatoms/__;!!G_uCfscf7eWS!dakoWTvspWy2zk4utlxfl-zwfs5SWs_zJblgNevRRsacb9xisYbdXd2em31YHNG4_m6roKL4iENfjuGOGnf3iwtatE5J4oxMwMEB1NI$
 
Dear Matt,

thanks for the feedback. The advantage of WebAtoms was, it was capable to 
process files, which larch can’t and it is much more „verbose“. With WebAtoms I 
got so much feedback, that I was able to „repair“ the files.

Typically about 40 % of cif-files, I get within cooperations from partners 
doing diffraction on the same samples are not compatible with larch.


Best regards

Stefan


Am 27.09.2024 um 18:25 schrieb Matthew Newville 
<newvi...@cars.uchicago.edu<mailto:newvi...@cars.uchicago.edu>>:

Hi Stefan,

Yes, we know this is down, and sorry for that.  In fact, we talked about this 
at the most recent Larch developers meeting (which is more of a discussion with 
people interested in influencing its development, so if anyone is interested in 
giving feedback on these tools or joining such a conversation, let me know).  
The current plan is to replace it with a web app that interfaces with Larch and 
pymatgen to generate Feff (and hopefully FDMNES) inputs.

I hope we can get a prototype up soonish, but I think this entire area 
(CIF/XYS_Structure -> XAS inputs, and maybe related “databases of 
pre-calculated first shell XAS scattering) are continually brought up as 
needing more attention.

So, if you or anyone else has thoughts or suggestions on these topics, we would 
love to hear them.

--Matt


From: Mangold, Stefan (IPS) via Ifeffit 
<ifeffit@millenia.cars.aps.anl.gov<mailto:ifeffit@millenia.cars.aps.anl.gov>>
Date: Friday, September 27, 2024 at 11:06 AM
To: XAFS Analysis using Ifeffit 
<ifeffit@millenia.cars.aps.anl.gov<mailto:ifeffit@millenia.cars.aps.anl.gov>>
Cc: Mangold, Stefan (IPS) 
<stefan.mang...@kit.edu<mailto:stefan.mang...@kit.edu>>
Subject: [Ifeffit] Can't get access to WebAtoms via 
https://urldefense.us/v3/__http://millenia.cars.aps.anl.gov/webatoms/__;!!G_uCfscf7eWS!dakoWTvspWy2zk4utlxfl-zwfs5SWs_zJblgNevRRsacb9xisYbdXd2em31YHNG4_m6roKL4iENfjuGOGnf3iwtatE5J4oxMwMEB1NI$
 
Dear all,

I have a problem to open WebAtoms via 
https://urldefense.us/v3/__http://millenia.cars.aps.anl.gov/webatoms/__;!!G_uCfscf7eWS!dakoWTvspWy2zk4utlxfl-zwfs5SWs_zJblgNevRRsacb9xisYbdXd2em31YHNG4_m6roKL4iENfjuGOGnf3iwtatE5J4oxMwMEB1NI$
 , is there another server available ?


best regards
Stefan Mangold

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