Hi Soyoung,


  1.  In Help > Check for updates, it still shows 2024.12.0 as the newest 
version.

Thanks, this is (or should be) fixed now.


  1.  When I tried the pre-edge peak fitting for one of my data with a Voigt 
profile, it resulted in a negative value of Gamma, which should be unphysical 
(to my mind at least). It turns out that my pre-edge peak can be fitted very 
well to a single Gaussian. Is it an error that can be fixed?

I think that gamma for a Voigt function can be negative.  That fits with my 
experience too: when gamma goes to 0, a Voigt is exactly Gaussian.  When gamma 
is negative, it puts slightly negative tails near the peak (as if subtracting a 
Lorenztian, though not exact).

Using Gaussians for pre-edge peaks is completely normal – I think most of the 
literature does this.   The pre-edge peaks have broadened from both “core-level 
widths” (this will give a Lorentzian profile, in theory) and from the source 
and monochromator resolution.  The source resolution is Gaussian, and the 
monochromator resolution is more complicated but Gaussian-ish (sharper tails 
than Lorentzian).   Usually, the source and mono dominate.

For some beamlines with very low source divergence, the Lorentzian term can be 
noticeable.

In fact, when doing HERFD, it is the core-width that is suppressed, so the 
peaks become more Gaussian.


  1.  In pre-edge peak fitting again, I tried first fitting the baseline, then 
fixing the parameters for baseline with what was fitted, then fitting the peak. 
Somehow, the resulting fit shows the same baseline parameters, but the plotted 
baseline is shifted downwards.

Sorry that is is fussier than it should be.  The baseline looks good in your 
plot with gamma ~=0.3.     The “baseline” should account for a linear pre-edge 
and the main line.

But also, after it is determined, you can alter the values for these 
components.  You can even remove these components and add your own fit 
components to account for the whole curve.


--Matt


From: Soyoung Kim via Ifeffit <ifeffit@millenia.cars.aps.anl.gov>
Date: Monday, January 13, 2025 at 5:07 PM
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Cc: Soyoung Kim <soy...@lbl.gov>
Subject: [Ifeffit] Re: Larch 2025.1.1
Dear Matthew, Thank you for the kind email! I always appreciate your hard work 
for the XAS community. I have a few small feedbacks: 1. In Help > Check for 
updates, it still shows 2024. 12. 0 as the newest version. 2. When I tried the 
pre-edge
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Dear Matthew,

Thank you for the kind email! I always appreciate your hard work for the XAS 
community.

I have a few small feedbacks:
1. In Help > Check for updates, it still shows 2024.12.0 as the newest version.
2. When I tried the pre-edge peak fitting for one of my data with a Voigt 
profile, it resulted in a negative value of Gamma, which should be unphysical 
(to my mind at least). It turns out that my pre-edge peak can be fitted very 
well to a single Gaussian. Is it an error that can be fixed?
3. In pre-edge peak fitting again, I tried first fitting the baseline, then 
fixing the parameters for baseline with what was fitted, then fitting the peak. 
Somehow, the resulting fit shows the same baseline parameters, but the plotted 
baseline is shifted downwards.

For 2 & 3, I have attached screenshots as well as the raw data. If these are 
issues too minor/trivial, please feel free to ignore them.

I would also like to ask if I may be added to the zoom meeting. By the way, I 
am on the west coast, so only after 11am your time will work for me. But if 9 
am your time is the best for other reasons, it is ok. Perhaps being able to 
access the recording would be enough for me.

Thank you very much!

Sincerely,
Soyoung


On Sun, Jan 12, 2025 at 6:55 PM Matthew Newville via Ifeffit 
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wrote:
Hi Folks, Larch version 2025. 1. 1 has been released. This fixes a serious 
issue for generating Feff data files, and a few other issues too. It had been 
more than a year since fresh binary installers were made, so those have been 
updated too. 
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Hi Folks,

Larch version 2025.1.1 has been released.  This fixes a serious issue for 
generating Feff data files, and a few other issues too.
It had been more than a year since fresh binary installers were made, so those 
have been updated too.

As always, suggestions and feedback are welcome.   Since this is the first 
release of the year, and since we have an XAFS Conference and Q2XAFS meeting 
coming up this summer in Chicago (July 14-20), I encourage people to think 
about what they would like to see for these and other tools for XAFS and 
related work.   And also: think about coming to the conference ;).

For those interested, we’ll restart monthly meetings to discuss the development 
of these tools later this month (probably January 24, probably 9 AM Chicago 
time).   This is not development-only, but often about feature requests, 
complaints about the GUIs, and ideas.  If you are interested, let me know, and 
I’ll happily add you to the invite list for that Zoom call.

We would like to hear feedback on:
a.     Should we have a monthly Zoom meeting (maybe alternating time of day) as 
“Office Hours” ?
b.     Should we send a survey of user needs and desires for features, 
recommendations, etc?

If you have opinions on any of these topics, let me know either here or by 
direct email.

--Matt

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