To: Matthew Marcus

Hi Matthew, would you be able to send me the executable file and manual for
PCA? My spectra files are in .dat form .

Thanks and kind regards.

Teck Kwang Choo
PhD Candidate
Department of Chemical Engineering
Room 225, Building 36
Monash University
Mobile No.: 04-11489904


On 3 July 2014 16:19, Teck Kwang Choo <teck.kwang.c...@monash.edu> wrote:

> Thanks everyone for the suggestions! I will give Six pack a go first since
> I have that software. If that doesn't work, I'll send another message.
>
> I wish you all a pleasant day.
>
> Teck Kwang Choo
> PhD Candidate
> Department of Chemical Engineering
> Room 225, Building 36
> Monash University
> Mobile No.: 04-11489904
>
>
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>> From: <fred.mosselm...@diamond.ac.uk>
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>> Dear Teck,
>>
>> ITFA does transformation factor analysis as well, if you just want to do
>> PCA, the PCA module in Sam Webb's sixpack is quite intuitive to use.
>> https://home.comcast.net/~sam_webb/sixpack.html
>>
>> cheers
>> Fred
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>> Message: 2
>> Date: Wed, 02 Jul 2014 08:33:25 -0700
>> From: Matthew Marcus <mamar...@lbl.gov>
>> To: XAFS Analysis using Ifeffit <ifeffit@millenia.cars.aps.anl.gov>
>> Subject: Re: [Ifeffit] Principal Component Analysis (PCA) for XANES
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>> Athena (IFEFFIT package) does it.  So does the ALS Beamline 10.3.2
>> software package at
>> https://sites.google.com/a/lbl.gov/microxas-lbl-gov/software .
>> If you can't get at it there, I can send the executable and manual.
>>         mam
>>
>> On 7/1/2014 10:59 PM, Teck Kwang Choo wrote:
>> > Hi Everyone,
>> >
>> > Does anyone know what software I should use to perform a Principal
>> Component Analysis (PCA) on my K-edge XANES spectra (for sulfur)? The
>> reason I need to use this technique is because I have a couple of reference
>> compound spectra but am not sure which of those I should use to fit my
>> unknown sample spectrum.
>> >
>> > Any help is appreciated.
>> >
>> > Thanks and kind regards.
>> >
>> >
>> > Teck Kwang Choo
>> > PhD Candidate
>> > Department of Chemical Engineering
>> > Room 225, Building 36
>> > Monash University
>> > Mobile No.: 04-11489904
>> >
>> >
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>> Message: 3
>> Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2014 21:03:17 +0530
>> From: Abhijeet Gaur <abhijeetga...@gmail.com>
>> To: ifeffit <ifeffit@millenia.cars.aps.anl.gov>
>> Subject: Re: [Ifeffit] Ifeffit Digest, Vol 137, Issue 4
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>> Hi Teck Kwang Choo,
>>
>>                                       For PCA analysis you can use SixPack
>> data analysis package by Dr. Sam Webb available at
>> https://home.comcast.net/~sam_webb/sixpack.html.
>>
>>                               Also you can use Dmeter by Dr Bruce Ravel
>> available at http://bruceravel.github.io/demeter/.
>>
>> With best wishes
>>
>> Dr Abhijeet Gaur
>>
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>> >    1. spam on our mailing list (Bruce Ravel)
>> >    2. Re: to use scattering path in different model or to construct
>> >       a new model which is the combination of different simple compound
>> >       (Bruce Ravel)
>> >    3. Principal Component Analysis (PCA) for XANES (Teck Kwang Choo)
>> >    4. Re: Principal Component Analysis (PCA) for XANES
>> >       (Amayri, Dr. Samer)
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>> > Message: 1
>> > Date: Tue, 01 Jul 2014 13:31:59 -0400
>> > From: Bruce Ravel <bra...@bnl.gov>
>> > To: XAFS Analysis using Ifeffit <ifeffit@millenia.cars.aps.anl.gov>
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>> > ------------------------------
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>> > Message: 2
>> > Date: Tue, 01 Jul 2014 15:16:20 -0400
>> > From: Bruce Ravel <bra...@bnl.gov>
>> > To: XAFS Analysis using Ifeffit <ifeffit@millenia.cars.aps.anl.gov>
>> > Subject: Re: [Ifeffit] to use scattering path in different model or to
>> >         construct a new model which is the combination of different
>> simple
>> >         compound
>> > Message-ID: <53b30904.5030...@bnl.gov>
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>> > On 07/01/2014 10:43 AM, ZHAN Fei wrote:
>> > > 1 In the example,multiplet scattering path comes from two model
>> > > respectively,if use path from different model in different shell's
>> > > fit,there is risk of ignore important multiple path across
>> models.Should
>> > > construct a cluster ,run feff to ensure?
>> >
>> > I don't completely understand the question, but I'll give it a try.
>> >
>> > In the example of Shelly's paper, she had a situation where she
>> > *couldn't* write a single feff.inp file.  Her local environment was the
>> > average of all possible ways that the uranyl ion could bond to biomass.
>> >   The uranyl binding disproportionated into a pH-dependent mixture of
>> > carboxyl, phosphoryl, and hydroxyl sites.  There was simply no way to
>> > write a feff.inp file for that.  So her solution was to run Feff more
>> > than once, picking and choosing paths that represented her best guess
>> > for modeling the average bonding environment.
>> >
>> > I think what you are really getting at, though, is whether it was right
>> > for Shelly to use parts of Feff calculations on a crystals to model
>> > something else.  If you were to read up on the theory used in Feff, you
>> > would find that the important thing is that the muffin tin radii of the
>> > scatterers get calculated reasonably.  Unless Shelly had a reason to
>> > think that the interatomic distances in her biomass sample were VERY
>> > different than in the crystals she used to run Feff, then the scattering
>> > amplitudes and phase shifts were almost certainly computed quite well
>> > enough.
>> >
>> > > 2 I have confusion of the relationship pf N between single path and
>> > > multiple path,for example I think U-Oe-C U-Oe-Pshould be 1 2
>> > > respectively,instead 2 4 in paper.
>> >
>> > I think Scott's explanation is correct.  In real-space,
>> > multiple-scattering theory, both ways around a three-legged path have to
>> > be counted.
>> >
>> > B
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> >   Bruce Ravel  ------------------------------------ bra...@bnl.gov
>> >
>> >   National Institute of Standards and Technology
>> >   Synchrotron Science Group at NSLS --- Beamlines U7A, X24A, X23A2
>> >   Building 535A
>> >   Upton NY, 11973
>> >
>> >   Homepage:    http://xafs.org/BruceRavel
>> >   Software:    https://github.com/bruceravel
>> >
>> >
>> > ------------------------------
>> >
>> > Message: 3
>> > Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2014 15:59:25 +1000
>> > From: Teck Kwang Choo <teck.kwang.c...@monash.edu>
>> > To: XAFS Analysis using Ifeffit <ifeffit@millenia.cars.aps.anl.gov>
>> > Subject: [Ifeffit] Principal Component Analysis (PCA) for XANES
>> > Message-ID:
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>> > cahxrqwdt2lvasbvbuu7hmag0owcc9u8fkbchzdamyw14-uy...@mail.gmail.com>
>> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>> >
>> > Hi Everyone,
>> >
>> > Does anyone know what software I should use to perform a Principal
>> > Component Analysis (PCA) on my K-edge XANES spectra (for sulfur)? The
>> > reason I need to use this technique is because I have a couple of
>> reference
>> > compound spectra but am not sure which of those I should use to fit my
>> > unknown sample spectrum.
>> >
>> > Any help is appreciated.
>> >
>> > Thanks and kind regards.
>> >
>> >
>> > Teck Kwang Choo
>> > PhD Candidate
>> > Department of Chemical Engineering
>> > Room 225, Building 36
>> > Monash University
>> > Mobile No.: 04-11489904
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>> > Message: 4
>> > Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2014 07:22:08 +0000
>> > From: "Amayri, Dr. Samer" <ama...@uni-mainz.de>
>> > To: "'XAFS Analysis using Ifeffit'"
>> >         <ifeffit@millenia.cars.aps.anl.gov>
>> > Subject: Re: [Ifeffit] Principal Component Analysis (PCA) for XANES
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>> > Hallo Teck,
>> >
>> > To get the Principal Component Analysis (PCA) program you can contact
>> Dr.
>> > Andr? Ro?berg (rossb...@esrf.fr).
>> >
>> > Heir some references related to ITFA:
>> > Rossberg, A., Reich, T. & Bernhard, G. (2003). Analytical and
>> > Bioanalytical Chemistry 376, 631-638.
>> > Scheinost, A. C., Rossberg, A., Marcus, M., Pfister, S. & Kretzschmar,
>> R.
>> > (2005). Physica Scripta T115, 1038-1040.
>> > Ikeda, A., Hennig, C., Rossberg, A., Tsushima, S., Scheinost, A. C. &
>> > Bernhard, G. (2008). Analytical Chemistry 80, 1102-1110.
>> > Rossberg, A., Ulrich, K. U., Weiss, S., Tsushima, S., Hiemstra, T. &
>> > Scheinost, A. C. (2009). Environmental Science &
>> > Technology 43, 1400-1406.
>> > Breynaert, E., Scheinost, A. C., Dom, D., Rossberg, A., Vancluysen, J.,
>> > Gobechiya, E., Kirschhock, C. E. A. & Maes, A. (2010).
>> > Environmental Science & Technology 44, 6649-6655.
>> >
>> > With best regards
>> >
>> > Dr. Samer Amayri
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > From: ifeffit-boun...@millenia.cars.aps.anl.gov [mailto:
>> > ifeffit-boun...@millenia.cars.aps.anl.gov] On Behalf Of Teck Kwang Choo
>> > Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 7:59 AM
>> > To: XAFS Analysis using Ifeffit
>> > Subject: [Ifeffit] Principal Component Analysis (PCA) for XANES
>> >
>> > Hi Everyone,
>> > Does anyone know what software I should use to perform a Principal
>> > Component Analysis (PCA) on my K-edge XANES spectra (for sulfur)? The
>> > reason I need to use this technique is because I have a couple of
>> reference
>> > compound spectra but am not sure which of those I should use to fit my
>> > unknown sample spectrum.
>> > Any help is appreciated.
>> >
>> > Thanks and kind regards.
>> >
>> >
>> > Teck Kwang Choo
>> > PhD Candidate
>> > Department of Chemical Engineering
>> > Room 225, Building 36
>> > Monash University
>> > Mobile No.: 04-11489904
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