On Tue, 12 Mar 2002, Shlomi Fish wrote:
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> Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2002 16:11:28 +0200
> From: Amir Abiri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: Shlomi Fish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: Hello World
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> From: "Shlomi Fish" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> > On Tue, 12 Mar 2002, Amir Abiri wrote:
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> > > From: "Shlomi Fish" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> > > > On Tue, 12 Mar 2002, Tzafrir Cohen wrote:
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> > > > > Has anybody looked recently at upgrading zope?
> > > > >
> > > > > What does it take?
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> > > > > If it takes too much work: is it worth considering using another
> system
> > > > > for the site?
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > I did. My problem was that Squishdot (which is the main back-end)
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> > > > some manual steps to upgrade from two subsequent versions. The current
> > > > squishdot version we have is the oldest possible so there are about 30
> > > > manual steps that need to be taken.
> > >
> > > This is less what my skills are about, but of course i can do that two,
> > > given enough headache.
> > >
> >
> > I can also do it, but I'm looking for a simpler and more
> > straightforward way.
> >
> > > > Beats me why they could not write a Python script to automate the
> upgrade.
> > > >
> > > > The problem with switching to another system, is that we will lose all
> our
> > > > articles history.
> > >
> > > Why ? Are they encrypted ?
> > > Where are the articles stored ? Database ? Text files ? Is it it
> impossible
> > > to Perl them out of there ?
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> > They are stored in one monolithic file that has all the Zope data. I don't
> > know what its exact format is. It's something that is specific to Zope.
> > You may be able to Python-them out of there if you study Zope a bit.
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> If it comes out to the screen, then it can go out into a file. If figuring
> out zope itself will be to hard, then i'll simply web-rip localhost.
> Web-Crawling is my little specialty.
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I prefer the Zope script to export it into something more sensible much
more. Or we could give up our history.
> > The problem is that Chen, who sat up Zope in the first place is not
> > responsive any more regarding the web-site. Moshe Zadka, who is
> > supposed to be a Zope expert - I did not hear from him online for quite a
> > long time, and he used to be quite active.
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> Well, it would be better of course if some could wake one of them or both
> from their hybernation. But i'm sure we can manage without them.
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As I am aware of, they are alive and kicking and Chen is participating in
discussions of other mailing lists. The problem is that they don't seem to
have time to help the site maintainers with the technicalities.
> > Zope is an architecture, and therefore very difficult to handle than a
> > set of standalone do-what-you-need scripts.
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> Another good reason to move the whole thing to PHP from scratch, in case i
> hybernate in the future.
>
You mean a homemade script to manage the web-log? AFAIK, there are
existing solutions like this, written in Perl, PHP, or whatever. As long
as they are SQL-based, they will be better than Squishdot, because we can
export their data to something else.
But maybe we should try to upgrade Squishdot manually, (after upgrading
Zope and installing the old Squishdot), and only give up if it doesn't
work. But we should disable the main site first, so we don't get new
posts.
> When do i start ? ;)
> Next two days will probably be hell for me, but all my weekend will probably
> be yours.
>
I've posted a link to instructions on how to upgrade Zope on this
web-site, and also a link for the manual instructions to upgrade
Squishdot. I can re-create those links if the need arises. Try to upgrade
everything and only if it fails, we'll try to convert the site to
something else. (keeping in mind to upgrade to the new Squishdot when such
a release comes out)
Do you have an account on iglu.org.il? Do you have the Root password?
Regards,
Shlomi Fish
> > Regards,
> >
> > Shlomi Fish
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> To all: pls stop ccing me in private. I'm subscribed to the list and i get
> all emails twice... :)
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