Oops, I accidentally replied in private.

On Thu, May 12, 2005 at 01:02:47PM +0300, Shlomi Fish wrote:
> When can we upgrade to Sarge? It seems to be frozen right now, and I sure 
> could use the newer software.

That's a good question. Not that "frozen" means that packages are still
getting updated, but they are supposed to be "only bugfixes". 

> 1. Install enough software to be able to use dh-perl-make:
> 
> http://perl.org.il/pipermail/perl/2003-December/003663.html
> 
> I'll need make and stuff. I'd rather not contaminate the perl directories 
> with 
> modules I install using perl -MCPAN. And not all Perl modules are available 
> in the Debian pool.
> 

You can install a debian build environment in a chroot jail of an
existing system. It seems that the current policy is not to hold the
build environment on Eskimo.

> 2. I'd like to convert the mailing lists from ezmlm to something like Siesta:
> 
> http://www.perl.com/pub/a/2004/02/05/siesta.html

mlmmj ? :-)

Anyway, I do miss archives for the lists (pointed from the page, preferably
searchable, but if not, at least something like mailman's pipermail)

I'm now playing with lurker.

> 
> ezmlm works only on qmail, and moving a mailing list to a different prefix or 
> domain is practically an impossible task.
> 
> 3. After, the conversion to Siesta or whatever is done, I'd like to ditch 
> qmail for postfix. qmail is not too bad, but its license is very problematic, 
> and not being free software, makes us look really bad. postfix is also nice.
> 
> For other anti-qmail discussion see:
> 
> http://perl.org.il/pipermail/perl/2004-October/005989.html
> 
> http://discuss.joelonsoftware.com/default.asp?joel.3.72853.10

I personally don't know qmail well. Is there a qmail doctor in the
crowd? Has it been working well in the recent year?

AFAIK, it's working and thus there's basically no reason to change it.
The only valid argument is the use of non-free software. But this is not
new and it was known when the server was set up.

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