Amit Aronovitch wrote: > On 6/6/07, Lior Kaplan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Amit Aronovitch wrote: >> > 1) >> > Do you have download statistics? >> > Personally I'm using the deb x86-64 mirror on (almost) daily basis, >> > but I realize that we should address the needs of the community rather >> > than those of the readers of this list... >> >> http://mirror.hamakor.org.il/#news > > I guess you refer to the move into ISOC servers. > But out of curiousity - you probably have some historic download > statistics for the mirrors we currently have - are they available > online? > >> >> > 2) >> > In case we get over the problems and get some space for new mirrors - >> > how about setting up a ClamAV database mirror? >> > I understand that it has very low disk usage (50MB?), but it does >> > require special settings (they use a push-mirroring system). >> > http://www.clamav.net/doc/mirrors/clamav-mirror-howto.pdf >> >> I've read it, the require you to give them access to your machine for >> "pushing" updates. I don't love that... > > I know. That's why I bothered mentioning it's a push system. > > However, just note that (non-shell) ssh access for an unprivileged > special account (which would probably be chrooted too, assuming > Shachar manages the server ;-) ) is not much of a security risk. I > assume you already have ssh access for some (shell enabled) user > accounts anyway. > > thanks, > Amit
We need to understand a few things. On the ISOC server, we are very far from free to install whatever service/user we want. Lior has shell access, and that's about the extent of things allowed. Not only is a "push" system out of the question, even running rsync for gentoo mirrors is not possible. The other thing we need to understand is that we CAN solve the server issues. I'm not sure how much will it take to get the current server fixed, but anywhere between 4K and 6K NIS is practically guaranteed to get us a working server (this one or a new one), which will have about 800-900GB of free space. That's not where our trouble lies. The real trouble is that mirror servers are bandwidth eaters, and as such, are expensive to host. Actcom was willing to turn a blind eye (except when we ate up 80% of its IIX connection due to three live CDs being published in Yedioth Aharonot). It is obvious that Bezeq-intl will not continue this policy, and it is doubtful whether we will find any other ISP in Israel that will. Without friendly hosting, it is doubtful whether Hamakor can afford the costs of a high bandwidth hosting! The prices of regular hosting are about 100$/mo. We can afford that. I'm not yet sure what the prices for high bandwidth hosting may be, and that's an important question. And that's the real appeal of the ISOC server. It resides in a strategic location, and hosted by a partner that is strategic not only to us, but also to the ISPs. It can get away with things we cannot. Which means that the current planned action is that either beak or a replacement server continue to host the relevant mailing lists, sites and databases, but will no longer host mirrors. All mirrors will move to ISOC or any other friendly hosting sponsor we may come up with. Shachar
