On Mon, Dec 27, 2010 at 6:28 PM, Narendra Sisodiya < [email protected]> wrote:
> Dear All, Please do not reply here. I am sending this mail using > putting all 23 email ids in BCC field. > Lets not spam inbox and convert into debate.. Please discuss on mailing > list - > http://groups.google.com/group/iitdlug > > Please discuss oon mailing list. > We are not duplicating OSSCamp effort.. that can be continued... We > are trying to build a better platform for discussion and > participation... > > Let me tell you again, Please do not discuss or associate osscamp with > the current meetup and distract us. > mentioning osscamps does not mean association. tehre is no distraction. i have my doubts as a community member, and i am curious. > @Kinshuk - you have given your feedback, > we would like to hear from other too. You can mail me personally at my > email id. Thanks a lot for your participation. > a community discussion doesnt take place on personal ids. > > > On Mon, Dec 27, 2010 at 5:59 PM, Kinshuk Sunil <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > > > On Mon, Dec 27, 2010 at 5:21 PM, Narendra Sisodiya < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> > >> On Mon, Dec 27, 2010 at 4:49 PM, Kinshuk Sunil <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> > i just dont understand why are we recreating osscamps ? why not > contribute > >> > and make it better ? > >> > > >> > On Mon, Dec 27, 2010 at 4:46 PM, Narendra Sisodiya > >> > <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> > >> >> I really thanks everybody to make a great success of this event. > >> >> I request you all to give feedback if you havenot given. we are the > FOSS > >> >> community of Delhi and remember we all cannot think or act in exact > common > >> >> ways, we have difference in our thinking and way of working but one > thing > >> >> should keep us bounded is "FOSS" and Open Technology. > >> >> Let us promise that we will be able to establish a true community > based > >> >> event and meetup for next month too with including many other friend > who > >> >> were missing at this event. > >> >> We need to work out how we can improve quality and quantity of event. > >> >> Remember this is your own event and meetup, disagreement should not > become > >> >> disappointment and thus leaving community participation. We must > discussion > >> >> and sit together. Next meetup can have parallel session like coding > people > >> >> can sit in another people , unconference can sit in another people , > >> >> discussion guys can sit in another room. > >> >> We are the guys who will lead to foss.in or infact better event in > Delhi. > >> >> Looking forward for hear you all. > >> >> > >> >> Thanks > >> >> > >> >> PS: If you are missing in this list, then let me know,, - > >> >> http://twitter.com/nsisodiya/delhi-foss-geek-meetup-1 > >> > >> OSSCamps can be continued but we are not repeating/killing osscamp, > > > > osscamp is not something that can be killed. nor is it going anywhere. > thankfully, every osscamp achieves what the community sets forward to > achieve. > > > >> > >> reread my or vivek's post when we discontinued OSSCamps. > >> Delhi community spitted in local college group by college and > geographically. > >> The motive of meetup to being us together for discussion and > >> participation in community at Delhi-NCR level. > >> > >> Dear Kinshuk, we are not killing osscamp nor i am leading or want to > >> show off something, I just want to see a join platform where all local > >> LUG, company guys, osscamp, ilugd can sit together and says - "Hey we > >> are the FOSS geek Community of Delhi-NCR" and discuss and produce more > >> and more quality work. Think Community not Company > > > > I dont know from where a company comes into the scene > >> > >> PS: Please discuss what we can do, Please do not discuss past osscamp > >> otherwise thing will become in flame-war etc. > > > > I am not discussing past osscamps either. i want to understand what are > we trying to achieve here. > > I understand when we talk of focussed meetups. As Satya said yesterday, > let every region have its own LUG. I still dont understand how feasible it > is, but that sounded like a good idea. > > not a good idea for present situation, He also taken back this idea > because the community is already fragmented into many. This will not > help until you have lug in every gali mohalla.. wait , we will do this > in future. > ok, step one - lets merge ilugd and lugiitd mailing lists. and any other lug mailing list for delhi/ncr. > > > > > Meetups are most useful when a small group from a very focussed area > comes together to meet up. Frankly, I came all the way from Indirapuram and > I had no take-away from the meet up. I came simply to understand the > challenges we, FOSS community, face and how can that be tackled. > > I really appreciate presence of everyone and sorry that you were > unable to get anything out of it. mail ad discuss what can be improved > in this meetup and do not try again and again to push OSScamp agenda. > 1. what is the osscamp agenda? 2. i am not pushing any agenda. i am aksing questions and seeking answers. you dont have to turn so protective. > Nobody will like this. silence of other people does not meant > agreement. Let me tell you again, Do not discuss, OSSCamp here, > the lugiitd mailing list manifest doesnt mention osscamps as a topic not to be discussed here. if so, ban me. > Discuss about what can be improved and give feedback Or read again > what Satya has replied to you. > also > you went outside 2 times and not attended even 1 hour constantly. > the answer was two lines below. > > > > > I stayed out almost all the while and left early too. Why? Because there > was no take away for me, and that doesnt mean it was a bad meetup. Judging > by everyone's experiences, they did have a take-away. > > I get confused when I hear "meetup > unconference > foss.in". What is > that trying to achieve? > > Do not use "What you are trying to achieve," I am not the one who is > gaining anything out of it. I told 200 times to discuss the purpose of > FOSS meeup and purpose of CCing . Our discussion will trun into > flamewars and spam all 21 people in CC list. > that was a rhetorical question. this should help: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhetorical > > > > > > Why arent the disparate groups coming together. If we can have monthly > FOSS Meetups, frequent osscamps and an annual Freed in Delhi; why not > contribute efforts to existing initiatives and bring them to the standard > they should be on. > > You say that you want a single platform for the community. But then why > are you fragmenting the community further? > > > >> > >> Motive of mail is to discuss > >> 1) What is GOOD /BAD in meetup {feedback} > > > > > > Good: At least new faces are turning up. At least 20-25 people made the > effort to come to the venue and did their best to create a healthy meetup. > > Bad: There is no aftermath. > > Cannot you see the aftermath ? I wrote mail to individual saying > thanks and feedback and now you have truned whole mail into CC-SPAM > kind of thing. > and how does that help the delhi foss community ? i am not cc-spamming anyone. i got a mail for select individuals, i replied to all. > > > >> > >> 2) What can be done to improve quality of meetup {planning} > > > > Have regio-centric meetups: seperate > south/north/east/west/noida+indirapuram/gurgaon/faridabad meetups. > > Come together every 4-6 months to have a wider platform. focussed > development efforts. maybe osscamps. > > Come together annually for a full-flavored, hardcore foss > evangelism/activism/development. maybe freed. > > > >> > >> Please discuss on these two issue. Almost everybody are on mailing list > - > >> > > > > I am not against any initiative or person. I am against duplicacy of > efforts. > -- l...@iitd - http://tinyurl.com/ycueutm
