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Before Richard Stallman's talk at the Turing Festival, Wired.co.uk sat
down with him to talk about the Free Software Foundation -- the movement
he started in the 80s whilst working on the GNU/Linux operating system.

The foundation opposes proprietary software, programs that restrict a
user's freedom by not letting them see, share, or modify, the source
code. Wired.co.uk discussed with the Stallman the role of free software,
Facebook and how he thinks it ties in with the recent UK riots.

Wired.co.uk: What is wrong with proprietary software?
Stallman: Some masters, when they have subjugated people, are very cruel
to them, and some are not so cruel, but the wrong is in the fact that
these masters are masters. So, when the program controls the users it
becomes an instrument for somebody to have power over [those] users.
That is what is unjust, that is why proprietary software is always unjust.

Competition is irrelevant to this issue, if there is a choice of
proprietary products to do a job then that means you have a choice of
masters, that's not freedom, freedom means not having a master.

What does software need to be considered free?
Free software means the users control the program: with proprietary
software, the software controls the users.

Specifically there are four essential freedoms: freedom 0 is the freedom
to run the program as you wish; freedom 1 is the freedom to study the
source code, and change it so it does your computing as you wish;
freedom 2 is the freedom to help others, which is the freedom to make
exact copies, and distribute them to others; and freedom 3 is the
freedom to contribute to your community, which is the freedom to make
and distribute your modified versions.

With these four freedoms, the users have control both individually, and
in whatever groups they choose to form.

So, freedom of access isn't one of the freedoms?
Free software does not mean you are guaranteed to be able to get a copy
of it at all. The criterion for free software is a matter of how you get
it, if you get it. So when you have a copy, the program either is, or is
not free software, and that depends on whether you have certain
essential freedoms; the ones needed for the user to have control of the
program.

What about services that you can access on your free platform, such as
Facebook?
Facebook is not your friend. Facebook's business model is collecting
[...] people's personal data. You shouldn't use it, it's a harmful
thing. I recognise it's occasionally been used to do some good things,
but it's still basically a bad thing.

It's useful to be able to talk with other people that you choose. So the
fundamental job that Facebook does isn't a bad thing, it's the way
Facebook does it that's bad. It fails to warn people that anything they
post could become known to the general public, the police, their
employers, etc. An ethical social networking site has to warn users
about this frequently, because the possibility is inherently there.

Even if you say that only a certain list of people can see this
particular thing, you don't know what they're going to do with it. So
the site ought to warn users that this possibility can't be prevented.

Then there's inviting people to tag photos with other people's names,
and thus build a bigger database. Which is why I ask that people don't
post photos of me on Facebook. They could be tagged, and Facebook has a
face recognition system, I don't like that.

Finally, there's the fact that Facebook 'like buttons' do surveillance.
They track visitors to whatever site has the 'like button', to whatever
page. That's a broad surveillance system. There's a lot of surveillance
of people as they browse, and I'm looking for people to work on changing
our variant of Firefox so that it blocks that better.

Does this mean there's hardware that you can't use either?
I have no DVD player. DVDs are malicious, except the free software that
can play [them]. I would have a copy of that, except [I can't] if I go
to France, which I'm going to do in a few days.

Why is that?
Because, Sarkozy [...] pushed through a vicious law which says that
possession of a copy of this program, or [one that] breaks any other
digital handcuffs, is punished by imprisonment.

How about in Britain?
The Digital Economy Bill is an instance of when governments are
subservient to corporations. It's not protecting anything. It punishes
people for being accused of copyright infringement. So, here we have
punishment on mere accusation, which discards a basic principle of
justice. It's not the only unjust law in the UK to stop people from sharing.

What's evil about the war on sharing is its aim. It's an attack on
society, and it's therefore wrong no matter what methods are invented,
but the methods systematically tend to be cruel because given that
sharing is good, and sharing is easy and convenient, and sharing is
useful, people will share, and only nasty methods have a chance to make
them stop. So they constantly look for new nasty methods to use, but a
government wouldn't adopt such laws unless it had already betrayed the
public.

The media companies are the masters, and we're not allowed to displease
them. They accuse, no need to convict, no need for a trial. That law is
an evident injustice.

There are other areas or life, which are more important, where
government is also guilty of injustice. But it's a clear basis to
diagnose a government of occupation. It's put in place by the mega
corporations to keep the people down. People must think in terms of
resisting a government of occupation, until the occupation is ended and
the empire falls.

One way people can resist is by removing the keys from their wireless
networks. If you have a key on your wireless network then you're acting
as an enforcer. You've been conscripted into the war on sharing. [If
everyone has open networks] they can't really tell who's doing anything.

Were the recent British riots a form of resistance?
The riots are a symptom of government injustice. And the government is
using the riots to focus people's anger on this side issue, instead of
on the targets that really call out for anger.

Remember that part of the reason for the riots is that there are people
who saw themselves facing a life of no opportunity, unemployment, and a
constant pattern of mistreatment by the police. That doesn't mean that
it was right to loot stores of luxury goods, but it meant that their
crimes were provoked, and who provoked it? The people doing the budget
cutting.

Now if they were thinking clearly, [the rioters would] plan a different
kind of protest. They weren't very smart and did something that wasn't
justified, but that doesn't mean the provocation wasn't a real issue,
and, if [things] continue that way, they're going to explode again,
somehow, someday.

People can understand that those were small crimes compared with the big
looting. They can see that they're suffering because of all the money
that's been looted by the big looters.

I'm not sure how much damage was done [during the riots], it might be as
much as some millions of pounds, but the big looters have taken
billions, the riots are tiny compared with that. The little looters are
being used as a distraction from the big looters. Namely the banksters,
who got bailed out instead of bankrupted, and then there are the tax
dodgers.

So, what can we do? We have to push back against this. Even when there
isn't a big protest we can still be doing things. Such as I'm doing
right now with you, I'm pointing attention at the real issue instead of
at the distractions.

We have opportunities to do this every day. It would be nice if people
could stand in front of Topshop, or a Vodafone store, for a couple of
hours handing out leaflets.

Though this course of action has been called criminal in the past.
The crime of aggravated trespass was essentially invented as a way to
make protest a crime. Any time they charge somebody with aggravated
trespass people should respond: "Oh, this is government tyranny. We know
from the fact that that's the charge that it's government tyranny."
They're charged with the crime of protesting. A protest that there was
no other reason to prohibit.

It's one of the usual things. Most people accept a tyrannical law, they
don't condemn it and demand it be removed.

Such as the Regulation of Investigatory Powers act (RIP)?
RIP human rights. The police could demand that you hand over the
encryption key that you use to talk to your brother, and not let your
brother know. And if your brother finds out through anything you did,
that's a crime, you could be put in prison. Essentially this sounds like
the plot of a nasty spy movie.

So what are you, personally, doing about this?
The free software movement is politics. Developing the GNU operating
system was an instance of direct action. To address an injustice, mainly
the injustice of proprietary software. I didn't see myself as being in a
position to change that situation. To do anything to reduce the problem
of proprietary software through political action so I did direct action.
I wrote other software and said: "Let's use this instead, let's escape
from that proprietary software."

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