@ Praveen, being specific about the problem, it occured when i was running on Ubuntu. [at that time I had an 'Almann' virus in my XP, which disabled safe removal of removable media. I had to pull HDD off, when i see there is no active read / write. (every x seconds , some read/write used to be there, checking whether a system folder is ther on the removable media, and if not , rite that ystem folder with malicious code inside. The same way most of us know, how autorun mal scripts work in win platform)]. there was no visible corruption of ntfs partition. When these media, which where not safely removed, are connected to my ubuntu system,It gave a message. A dialoge box, which contained a command, a long one, which should be pasted/typed to a terminal.
Then I formated the XP to get rid of the virus. And had to reinstall Linux, as i dint have access to skilled men in replacing the grub disabled by windows insatalation. This time I did a LinuxMint, it had no issues with removable media.I donno know whether it was an advantage of Mint or because the virus was not there, which prevented "safe removal". Now this "lock" happned only in the ntfs partition, which was not "safely removed" from windows. Whenever i was able to kill the virus threads running in XP, I was able to mount the ntfs.(killing these threads were a strenous game,with three virus processes running at same time, each getting activted in some six second interval.once the processes are killed, XP would work normal untill next reboot.) Now what i can do to reconstruct the situation is to install the same distro again, and push an external HDD with ntfs partition and look for the mesage. I dont remember what the message was. -------------------- all th statements you made, I agree. I will try drafting, which will be posted. I think, a rough one in a week. ther was a thread initiated, yesterday, reagrding the *most fine tuneable distro*. Inspired by Srihari's quote. A distro wich is available as both a developer's tool, and also as desktop users tool.[we have debian and ubuntu for the prupose, sharing much of the internals as far as i have read. But the discusion occurs in different forums. need to find more efective bridges.] I tried i could start the discusion there,i think i failed to convey the significance. or there is no significance for that at all, some solution is already there, which I am not aware of. -------------------- The opinions i raised regarding user friendliness are not my personal, atleast in some cases, either it was from 'my own experiance in the past wen i had only one system with no internet connection', or from the expressions i gathered in the few hours at an ILUG tvm stall at kannur engg college, from the public. I had real internal problem when i adviced Linux OS to people like fruit stall vendors, language teachers and drivers and all. As far as i does, i ask them to be familiar with FOSS apps available in Win platform - OOfice, Gimp, Firefox etc, and not the OS as such, and never advice anything more than a dual boot. On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 11:48 PM, Praveen A <[email protected]> wrote: > 2010/5/12 Harish CM <[email protected]>: > > Look at it this way - as a sysadmin I would not want removable media > (floppy > > cd/dvd pen drives etc to enter (for fear of contamination of my network) > or > > taken away (information security) so much so such devices are disabled - > and > > that is precisely where the problem lies. Most of us are worried about > one's > > own machine and one is free to do whatever as long as it is standalone. > Come > > networking, the scenario changes drastically. DOS/Windows came into being > in > > the standalone mode and is good and functional in that environ. > > Harish, > > As a sysadmin, you are supposed to know all these. But a normal user > need know about ntfs systems or fstab to get their friends external > drive to work. > > > Also, knowing more is, as far as I am concerned, better than knowing > nothing > > - it does it all for you- attitude is good enough as long as it works; > when > > it fails one does not know what is to be done - and that is bad > > Yes, that is the problem here. We need a mechanism to fix things when > things break. It could be training or external support. > -- > പ്രവീണ് അരിമ്പ്രത്തൊടിയില് > <GPLv2> I know my rights; I want my phone call! > <DRM> What use is a phone call, if you are unable to speak? > (as seen on /.) > > -- > "Freedom is the only law". > "Freedom Unplugged" > http://www.ilug-tvm.org > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "ilug-tvm" group. > To control your subscription visit > http://groups.google.co.in/group/ilug-tvm/subscribe > To post to this group, send email to [email protected] > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected] > > > > For details visit the google group page: > http://groups.google.com/group/ilug-tvm?hl=en > -- #//////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////# "Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication" Leonardo da Vinci #//////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////# -- "Freedom is the only law". "Freedom Unplugged" http://www.ilug-tvm.org You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "ilug-tvm" group. To control your subscription visit http://groups.google.co.in/group/ilug-tvm/subscribe To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For details visit the google group page: http://groups.google.com/group/ilug-tvm?hl=en
