Hello,

On Thu, 12 Jun 2008, Arun Khan wrote:
> On Thursday 12 Jun 2008, Kapil Hari Paranjape wrote:
> > Which is why having a community supported service sounds increasingly
> > like a good idea. Let's see if there is some "prior art" which can
> > help.
> 
> This works when there are a number of volunteers who can fill each 
> other's roles.

I agree that a lot of people must chip-in. Each person using the
service can (in a small or big way) contribute to its running. Part of
the "prior-art" question is how does one set up things so that this
contribution is possible. For example, bug-reporting must work well.
Some sort of user upgradation system is required. And so on.

> My general observation (including LUGs), when there is a call for
> volunteers most step *back* leaving the one who proposed holding the
> baton.

Such pessimism is unwarranted. How do volunteer supported services
(use Debian?!) work? The point is to make the service so vibrant that
no one can do without it.

> > One can also use TLS to communicate with "friendly" mail exchangers.
> 
> I do not understand the above.  Are you suggesting that I exchange email 
> with only those whose SMTP servers are willing to accept messages from 
> my smtp server?

There will always be some mail servers/admins who will blindly follow
the RBL of the most pig-headed of the DNS black-listers.

For the rest of the "friendlier" admins you can offer to use your
certificate-based TLS connection so that "normal" SMTP blacklists can
be overcome. Most MTA's allow for TLS authenticated servers to by-pass
the blacklists.

In any case, the blacklists do not apply to if you are receiving mail
--- only if you are sending it.

Regards,

Kapil.
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